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Sometimes you get too greedy and lose a UDRP

September 25, 2018 by Raymond Hackney

So here is an interesting story on GeekWire.com (tip of the cap to Namepros Member Mems).

TitleTownTech.com was a domain sought after by the Green Bay Packers. According to the article: The Packers apparently reached out via a service to anonymously engage the Harris family in September after discovering the domain name had been “just two weregistered eks before.” The team offered $5,000 for the transfer of the domain name.

So instead of taking $5,000 for two weeks or a reasonable counter, here is what the registrant did.

From the article:

According to the complaint decision, the Harris family agreed to the terms, but backed out of the deal after the Oct. 19 TitletownTech announcement by the Packers and Microsoft. A counteroffer on Oct. 24 by the respondent promised transfer of the domain in exchange for a payment of $750,000 — plus “8 lifetime Green Bay Packers box seats, 2 parking passes” and “8 Microsoft surface pro’s [sic] with lifetime Microsoft office programs.”

The article goes on to explain how they lost the name in a UDRP, and comments from the family. Kurt Schlosser wrote a good piece worth the read.

Filed Under: Domain Names, IntellectualProperty, UDRP

About Raymond Hackney

Raymond is a writer, domain trader and consultant based in Pennsylvania. Raymond is the founder of 3Character.com and TLDInvestors.com.

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Comments

  1. Anonymous says

    September 25, 2018 at 11:29 pm

    Was this, by chance, Phil Harris?

    • Raymond Hackney says

      September 25, 2018 at 11:31 pm

      No, Chris and Julie.

  2. Jamie says

    September 25, 2018 at 11:45 pm

    Sounds reasonable. ? No, so I’m assuming the Harris’s lost the name? Serves them right if so. The name probably isn’t worth $200 right now, but I’m sure it will go up in value after the launch, but still $750,000 + a goodie bag ?? No!

    • Elephant says

      September 26, 2018 at 2:35 am

      Why does that “sound reasonable” to you? Anyone has the right to declare any desired price and that should not be a reason for UDRP. This is complete nonsense.

  3. Undaunt says

    September 26, 2018 at 3:00 am

    Yes its their name but Pure Greed.I am sure they would have gotten tickets after the $ 5000 sale but ,8 lifetime box seats,8 MS surface pro.Common !!This is not a premium name for goodness sake.

  4. rathead says

    September 26, 2018 at 6:14 am

    he made a deal and backed out. they should sue him but it’s NOT a UDRP case. these rulings are ridiculous.

  5. cmac says

    September 26, 2018 at 7:37 am

    After reading the article, I can relate to their frustration of big corps using fake names, throw away email addresses to try and get a domain under false pretenses. They should of asked for something like 50k instead of 750 though.

  6. john says

    September 26, 2018 at 8:37 am

    I once sold a domain name to verisign for $250. They used a fake email from Europe. I didnt need the name, it was made up, never had an offer on it. Iwas sitting in the bar a month later, and a commercial came on TV, I almost fell off my barstoool. Jamster.com commercial. Part of the learning process. I always know my buyers now. WOnt even talk if they dont tell me who they represent.

    • Logan says

      September 27, 2018 at 6:45 pm

      It’s shameful how unethical many prospective domain name buyers are. Could you imagine behaving like they do when you try to buy a residential home? Create a fake email address, lie about your name, and email them an offer of $5,000 for a $500,000 home? Maybe even call them a squatter in their own home to add insult to injury?

  7. Mems says

    September 26, 2018 at 11:56 am

    The Packers have at least 8 trademarks on “Titletown” dating back to November 30, 2011.
    That would have been the first thing to check.

    Thanks

  8. steve says

    September 26, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    You mean they also didn’t ask for free private jet charters, free hospitality at the Four Seasons for life, free UBER.

    The thought they had a winning lottery ticket and celebrated with champagne before cashing it in. “We’ll make millions” as “they have so much money” —

    But that was their decision — I’m not going to criticize.

  9. Stephen Stankiewicz III says

    September 26, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    Sold snipin.com for $400 a few months back, now curious what this build is about & kicking myself a bit. But on the up side I got 25X my investment.

  10. dotintosh says

    October 1, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    Headline is misleading. Obviously you didn’t read the article. The guy said it was a joke. He had no expectation to getting all those things he requested.

    I wonder if he could challenge WIPO’s jurisdiction on interstate commerce. Doing some research on this.

    • VR says

      October 1, 2018 at 1:13 pm

      No one believes it was a joke, including the panelist. It was never a joke, he said he was upset how he was treated. Learn how to read.

      • Raymond Hackney says

        October 1, 2018 at 1:20 pm

        Well here is the exact quote,

        the Harris Family was “very frustrated with the treatment they had received” and “felt as though an organization that they admire greatly… [was] being coy and trying to trick them.” Respondent “acknowledges that [its] counteroffer was excessive, but it was not meant as a serious counteroffer and instead meant to send a message and came from a place of frustration.”

        The panelist reply

        Second, Respondent’s offer to sell the Disputed Domain Name to Complainant for USD 750,000 plus, among other things, eight lifetime Green Bay Packers box seats, is clearly “for valuable consideration in excess of [Respondent’s] documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name,” which is evidence of bad faith under paragraph 4(b)(i) of the Policy – a paragraph that includes no exception for an offer that a respondent, as here, later claims “was not meant as a serious counteroffer.” Allowing a respondent to excuse such an offer in this manner would undermine the relevance of this paragraph of the Policy.

  11. Q says

    October 1, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    It was absolute greed, and they reneged on their agreement. #greedybitch


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