Yesterday we pointed out the case of Virtual Planet of Mill Valley, CA which is dropping 103 domain names all registered at NetworkSolutions.com for 13 years.
At $35 a year it came to almost $50,000 in registration/renewal fees.
Today we seeing a huge drop of domain names at least 1,950 domain names all in the legal field by one company on August 1st.
The domain names were registered to John W. Dozier, Jr. of CyberTrialLawyer.com of Virgina.
All the domain name dropping today are 7 years old and registered at Godaddy.com.
Figuring $10 a domain per year over the 7 year period the domain holder spent $136,000 in registrations and renewal fees.
At one time according to DomainTools.com there were 4,799 domain names registered to the email address of CyberTrialLawyer.com and now they are down to just 207 domain names.
Domaining isn’t as easy as you think here is the full list of the domains that are .dropping (pdf)
As one of the largest holders of legal domains I have to tell you that lawyers basically don’t get it when it comes to domains.
It should be interesting when the new gTLD’s .law, .lawyer, .Attorney and .Legal all go after the same vertical at probably a much higher cost than a .Com
on their site
Important Disclaimer: Please note that Cybertriallawyer.com was a website previously run by Dozier Internet Law, P.C. and Attorney John Dozier. John recently passed away and this website was purchased by Traverse Legal, PLC. There is no relationship between Traverse Legal, PLC and Dozier Internet Law, PC, John Dozier or anyone previously affiliated with the Dozier Law Firm. We are working to modify this website to remove references to John Dozier and Dozier Internet Law as appropriate. Please understand that all contact through this website from September 18, 2012 will be with the Traverse Legal, PLC Law Firm. Any contacts or interactions prior were with the prior owner of the website.
Ok thank you for the info.
No ill will to those who have died – but owning virtually all of those domains is a reason to die
His domains were mainly Geo+Lawyer/Attorney dotcoms. I’ve seen Frank Schilling advocate that type of dotcom investment strategy on more than one occasion. The guy just didn’t live long enough for the legal population to catch up to him.
I don’t think anyone would have lived long enough for these domains that he had to become sale-able especially with all the competition coming from the new gTLD’s
I intend to agree with Tony,they are not that bad,i bought the other day theseattleattorneys.com
“I don’t think anyone would have lived long enough” – even with NO new gTLD’s
“theseattleattorneys.com” – you will never sell that domain
Now come on folks, a name like lickinglawyers.com has awesome potential.
Bnal
Out of fairness based on his other domain names this one was meant for lawyers that live in Licking County Ohio
http://www.lcounty.com/
regardless it still has as much potential as SharkLawyer(s).com – just a nice conversation piece on the mantle
Brian@ if you say so
Tony
I’ve seen Frank advocating that as well but now he is advocating new gTLD’s and one of larger applicants at that.
Rich
So lets use that domain theseattleattorneys.com
Any buyer for that domain could also buy seattleattorney.com seattleattorney.com seattlelaw.com seattlelawyer.com seattlelawyers.com (if available)
and soon to be available maybe for a registration fee seattle.law, seattle.lawyer seattle.attorney seattle.legal, seattle.esq, theseattle.lawyer theseattle.attorney theseattle.legal, theseattle.esq
you get the idea,.
So could you get a few hundred for it yeah
are you going to get thousands of dollars for it in that environment, probably not
I have several hundred legal domains like MartinLaw.com, GrahamLaw.com, FortLauderdaleLaw and AmsterdamLaw.com – ie surnames and geo areas followed by Law.com.
To date I have sold 4 – and those sales occurring in the last few years:
BocaLaw.com at $10K
AKLaw.com $8500
ReisLaw.com at $5K
NapierLaw.com at $3800
Granted I have uses for my domains other than selling them. But sitting around and waiting for the phone to ring to sell a legal domain would be a very lonely proposition 🙂
saltymermaid.com! lol
There are two that look like $$ to me:
CollegeThriftStore.com
PersonalGroceryList.com
In the LA area, mainstream grocery stores are going in the delivery service. They already give local shoppers a free van ride home . . . Amazon is getting into the grocery delivery business. I heard it is considering the purchase of Fresh & Easy. It already has a site up at:
http://fresh.amazon.com
College Thrift store – to me – says, “used books.” I like it.
With the proliferation of guns, noone wants to leave the house anymore, so delivery service is no longer, “luxury,” but utility as we prefer to stay inside. Then, there are health problems from lack of exercise.
That’s why grocery delivery is going to be big.
John Dozier was the kind of lawyer who gives the profession a bad name. He was to put it mildly a tenth rate braggart who misused both the law and other questionable tactics to try and bully people into giving up their First Amendment rights.
In the process of doing this he came under fire on the net. His response was to register staggering numbers of domains in an attempt to push information about his bad deeds down in search results.
I run a nonprofit, InventorEd.org which tracks invention promotion fraud. One of the companies that we have been tracking for over a decade setup a new domain to fleece aspiring inventors. That company hired John Dozier and he threatened one or our volunteers, myself and a patent attorney on behalf of his client.
That is documented at http://www.CyberTrialLawyer-SUCKS.com . He sued us and Public Citizen Litigation Group was kind enough to step into the case. Any who values the Internet should contribute to the Public Citizen Litigation Group. They are doing great work protecting the net from censorship.
John Dozier was a royal screw up, and things always turned out poorly for his clients. His practice withered after the above referenced web site went live. It is very hard to sell censorship services when one cannot effectively censor on their own behalf.
He even screwed up his own Super Lawyer puff piece, where he talked about being known as Super Bull**** Lawyer John Dozier.
Frankly, in John Dozier’s case the world became a better place with his demise.
Michael@
I find it very interesting how names mention below would make it over $5k
alabamabirthdefectlawyers.com
alaskawrongfuldeathlawyers.com
californiaattorneydirectory.com
connecticutbraininjurylawyer.com
Yet my names $200 if I get lucky!
TheBostonAttorneys.com
TheAtlantaAttorneys.com
TheLasVegasAttorneys.com
Those names have 28 character and my names have only 18 character.
Based on your theory those names (28 character) could also be worth just as much as my if you keep in mind the new gTLDs .
birthdefect.lawyers
death.lawyers
injury.lawyer
One last thing:
.COM works.
Does the new gTLDs work?and if they do ,in how many years will they be credible ?
Rich
Two of the four domains you pointed out are in the process of being dropped they are in redemption.
I have been going through our portfolio over the past year, I’m actually overdue on my post on the one year anniversary of my Domaining 6.0 post, but in light of the new gTLD’s we have been reviewing the portfolio and we are actually dropping a lot of legal type of domains
I have a signed book he wrote with Sue Scheff, “Google Bomb”. He gave it to me at a show.
In my opinion, Sue Scheff and Dozier were made for each other. Google Bomb showed a profound ignorance of how Internet works and of the truly diverse nature of people and their motives using Internet..
Dozier was always bragging about being a pioneer in Internet, yet it took him two years to figure out that the domains I registered ranked high because of the name, not because of outside links. He spent two years threatening everyone who linked to the site and even after he bullied many into removing link he was still a laughing stock.