You think ICANN running the domain space is bad?
How about The European Commission (EC) controlling it?
Kieren McCarthy of Dot-Nxt just wrote about six, yet unpublished papers by the EC’s Information Society and Media Directorate-General which wants to have control over the domain space including:
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- A government veto over any new Internet extensions
- The creation of a list of names, drawn up by governments, that would be banned from registration
- Significant structural changes at overseeing organization ICANN, including at Board level and in the crucial IANA contract
- An obligation for ICANN to follow governments’ advice unless deemed illegal or damaging to the Internet’s stability
- Two new bodies to oversee ICANN decision-making and finances
“”””Combined together, the measures would provide governments with de facto control over the Internet’s naming systems and bring an end to the independent and autonomous approach that has defined the Internet’s domain name system since its inception.”””
“””The papers also foresee that the enormous shift in power toward governments will happen within the next 12 months, with plans to formally raise or even implement suggested measures at meetings towards the end of this year, in particular ICANN’s meeting in Senegal in October.”””
At the end of the day someone is going to control the Internet.
Personally giving total control to a governmental body is the worst option that will leave stakeholders like domain holders totally out of the picture.
Check out Kieren full post here.
“At the end of the day someone is going to control the Internet.”
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At the end of the day someone is going to control the InternetS
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Internet(s)
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The U.S. FCC is in the process of creating several NEW Internet(s)
Some people will choose to be connected to the U.S. FCC controlled Internet(s)
There is no doubt the governance process is different. In the U.S. FCC case
they tend to select Big.Iron companies to form coalitions. The recent selection
of 9 Registry companies plus Microsoft is a good example. Google and Neustar
are part of the 9.
ICANN is more like the IOC – International Olympic Committee
If people can tolerate the arbitrary academic shifting changing unfair non-decision-making blood-sucking Eco.System – Go for it – Have a ball
People can choose from several Internet(s)
Yes Big Lie would have 1,000 internet’s with everyone setting their DNS to chose one
It worked so well for new.net 10 years ago.
Everyone can go off the grid as well, you just need a lot of sun or wind.
Cell phones I guess you could build your own towers and networks much cheaper than the $100 a month your paying.
Big Lie has it all figured out for you
“Yes Big Lie would have 1,000 internet’s with everyone setting their DNS to chose one”
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1. DNS is not required to build and operate what the U.S. FCC calls a “Well-Managed Network”
2. Protocols and Architecture are generally a good starting point when building a “Well-Managed Network”
3. YOU and many others are FREE to join the IANA Cargo Cult and march in unison and jump when they say jump. Have a dotBALL
http: // www. tvtechnology. com/article/123000
FCC Designates Microsoft White-Spaces Database Manager
08.01.2011
“The commission issued a call for white-space database managers in late 2009. Nine responded, and all were conditionally designated in January of this year. Microsoft didn’t get a dog in the race until April, then pushed the FCC to designated it, which it did last Thursday.”
People can choose from several Internet(s)
BTW – Microsoft uses the .0 (dotZero) in their Peer-2-Peer DNS
The Government, all of them, are already in charge. This is essentially why they are called “the government”. This is just a play to seek executive control rather than the slower and more cumbersomely unpredictable legislative control.
IMO it will be largely watered down because there are too many opposing parties, not least the folks currently in charge on the other side of the pond 🙂
Anything that cripples Icann is great for the Internet. Icann is too motivated by self-interest and corruption. Governments should totally ban all new TLDs as they serve no public purpose. And it looks like Icann is already being crippled by government control and there will be no new TLDs. Icann rats already saw the light at the end of the tunnel and started fleeing the sinking ship. Without new TLDs all the bribes and all the internal corruption will dry up.
The only thing that sucks is the rest of the world reads blogs like this to get the opinion of ‘domainers’, then presumes whatever they oppose is what’s best for everyone else.
Just another side effect of ICANN’s proposals for new gTLDs.
It’s obvious ICANN’s new gTLDs as proposed will do incredible damage to the Internet and something needs to be done, but ICANN won’t listen.
Anyway how can people be expected to stand up and support ICANN given so many of their people’s self serving behaviour?
ICANN is an embarrassment to many Americans
The U.S. FCC and the IEEE and other players are not stupid.
There are serious problems that need to be solved.
ICANN and the ISOC do not cultivate serious engineers with workable solutions.
The U.S. Government and other governments have a right and obligation to try
to warn people about faulty systems and shams. The U.S. FTC needs to step in.
If people want to step up and have $185,000 picked from their pockets, so be it.
What is that about…Fools and their money…?
Rather than go head to head against the IANA Cargo Cult, it is much easier for
the U.S. FCC (and many other partners) to simply build a serious (well-managed) network. If people call it the Internet, that is their choice.
It will be a NetWORK as opposed to a NOTwork – like IPv6
don’t worry, the EU has never stopped the Microsoft monopoly, totally ignores the Google monopoly and is only a paper tiger
“the EU …is only a paper tiger”
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Sounds like ICANN should move to Europe along with the ISOC (in Geneva)
Americans could throw a huge party and continue to build their new NetWORK
In 10 years, ICANN might be able to come up with another sTLD like XXX
People may prefer the XXX gTLD.
s-sponsored
g-generic (global)
ICANN goes for ICANN.Navel.Gazing
You can Comment on the Public Comment “Process”
http: //www .icann .org/en/announcements/announcement-31aug11-en.htm
Does anyone make public comments via ICANN any more ?
Are groupies still going to the road shows ?
Check out the 63 new Top Level Domains
http: //www .quintaris. pool. com/
Not surprising this article. The signs where already there when the GAC still had a boatload of unresolved issues.
Anyways the EC proposal will prolly be backed up by some countries, personally i think it is a bad idea. But what is a good idea ???
ICANN ?? Not in it’s current form and shape.
What is a better solution for the internet ? Some would argue that it shouldbe the UN and the reasoning wouldbe the internet is everyone. But that is not an option, that’s actually the reason we currently have ICANN.
I am more intrested to see a working proposal then the EC come up with a half arsed plan that never will make it.
Anyone got a solution ? 😉
finally got to the top of the world… and it blew right up in his face
Is Esther Dyson returning to ICANN as the new CEO ?
http: // icannwiki. com/index.php/Main_Page
wherever the govt pokes its nose it dies and stagantes. people, the web developed and was living just fine without all this corporate and govt nonsesense. get your hands off the web
“the web developed and was living just fine without all this corporate and govt nonsesense”
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People warned about that when ICANN was created (from thin air) in 1998
It is sort of ironic (Circa 2012) that the U.S. Government’s FCC is now the leader in protecting you {{from}} ICANN and the ISOC .ORGs
In 1998 U.S. Government leaders warned people – “Never trust ISOC”
ISOC – It Seeks Overall Control
As I posted on Kieren’s board, I couldn’t be happier about this. ICANN’s handling of ICM Registry’s application demonstrated that ICANN can not be trusted. Anyone who does not like this shift in power/control should be certain to thank Pete Thrush and Stu Lawley for the long term ramifications and consequences of their self-serving scheme. When the GAC said, “we have serious problems with .xxx” ICANN should have listened.
Ann
I think the problem is that the GAC did not object until the .XXX application was passed in something like 2006 and then the independent panel held that ICANN needed to follow through with it.
So like like the ad groups that have come out in the last couple of weeks saying we don’t want the new gTLD’s I mean where were these people over the last 3 years when this was up for discussion or debate?
The March approval of the application for .XXX was something ICANN had to do, because they mucked it up years earlier.
At the March meeting the consensus of the GAC was not serious support for but no serious support against, typical government/academic crap
Its like Barlow at dot nxt saying he didn’t participate ICANN or the new gTLD process because it was “too hard, too complicated”
There is a season for all things and a time to object, fight and make your voice heard.
The GAC slept on XXX years ago and by the time they woke up it was too late.
Same thing now with the Ad groups on the new gTLD’s
[/quote]The March approval of the application for .XXX was something ICANN had to do, because they mucked it up years earlier.[/quote]
If ICANN breached their obligations to ICM why didn’t ICANN pay ICM monetary damages for the costs ICM had incurred as a result of ICANN’s earlier “mucking up”?
Shouldn’t the awarding of .xxx have been a totally separate issue, one weighed solely on the balance of advantages versus disadvantages to the worldwide Internet community as a whole?
GPM
Icann had to pay for the cost of the panel around $500K and the cost of their own legal defense of the IJP which I think was several million
They didn’t have to pay ICM damages because ICM kept trying to go through the system ICANN created to get the extension they applied for.
Believe me if ICANN denied the application in march they would have been sued for hundreds of millions by ICM which is exactly why ICANN voted for and not against ICM app in March
Precisely my point. ICANN does not serve the interests of the global internet community. ICANN serves the interests of ICANN.
“What Could Be Worse Than ICANN?”
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Why look for something “worse” or cultivate more of the same ?
It is much easier to build a new future with a more clear vision of who to exclude.
The 50 to 60 people in the Eco.System will play out their charades as long as people fund them.
What Could Be Worse Than ICANN?
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Cyber Governance and Instability (Video)
Speaker: Paul Twomey, CEO, Argo Pacific; Former President and CEO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Presider: Stewart A. Baker, Partner, Steptoe & Johnson, LLP
September 7, 2011
General Meeting: Cyber Governance and Instability
What Could Be Worse Than ICANN?
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How about ICANN taking over MORE CONTROL of global computer databases?
Job.Security.101 ?
Check out the recent news about ICANN managing World Time Zones.