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Porsche Loses UDRP On Porscheexperience.com & Porscheguides.com Even After The Owner Offers To Sell Them

September 25, 2009 by Michael Berkens

It’s becoming very  frustrating for domainers to know what the status of the law is regarding UDRP’s,  as decisions are all over the place an seem to have little consistency.

In a decision released today, Porsche the car maker,  filed a UDRP on the domains porscheexperience.com and porscheguides.com.

The owner of the domain according to the facts,  offered to sell the domains to Porsche for 5,000 euro’s. or around $7,500 at today’s exchange rates.

Despite offering to sell the domains to the trademark holder, the Sole Panelist found no bad faith existed on the domain  holders part, saying:

“””The Respondents …. did not register (the domains) primarily for the purpose of sale, even though the Respondents subsequently offered to sell them for a substantial price to the Complainant.”””

Say What??

The panelist went on to say:

“””Although the Complainant’s mark has a very high reputation, it does not follow that any use of it in a domain name would be in bad faith for the purpose of the Policy.””

One of the domains, porscheexperience.com was used by the domain holder to promote a e-book on Porsche Cars, at some point, but when the complaint was filed neither domain was resolving or being used by the domain holder in any manner.

It was at this point Porsche demanded the domains be transferred to it at which point the domain holder told Porsche to buy it from him.

So domainers, I share your frustration with UDRP’s.

I have seen cases where non use has been held to be bad faith.

I have seen a ton of cases where once the domain holder offers to sell the domain to the trademark holder for anything more than registration costs, the domain holder loses.

Here the domain holder wins.

Here’ the frosting on the cake, the domain holder didn’t even respond to the complaint.

About 10 days ago, in response to  post about another UDRP decision, I had many domainers tell me, if you don’t respond to a UDRP, your’e going to lose.

So I’m totally confused on how any UDRP will be decided.

The lack on reliance on any one case to the next and total inconsistency in rulings, leaves us all vulnerable to UDRP’s which seems to now be giving everyone a  “gamblers chance” for a win or loss.

Filed Under: Legal

About Michael Berkens

Michael Berkens, Esq. is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of TheDomains.com. Michael is also the co-founder of Worldwide Media Inc. which sold around 70K domain to Godaddy.com in December 2015 and now owns around 8K domain names . Michael was also one of the 5 Judges selected for the the Verisign 30th Anniversary .Com contest.

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Comments

  1. jp says

    September 25, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    NAF or WIPO?

  2. UDRPtalk says

    September 25, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Excellent observation.

  3. MHB says

    September 25, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    JP

    WIPO

    Just posted the link

    http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0989.html

  4. Anunt says

    September 25, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    My Porsche Experience: A++

    I have owned a Mercedes, a BMW and now a Porsche…and Porsche is by far the best car…A++

  5. FX says

    September 25, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    this case is just funny on many fronts.
    Funny enough that makes me want to send Jonathan Turner a bottle of wine or something lol

    we read about a lot of sad decisions, this one is just funny in a wrong kinda way… would you agree Mike ?

  6. MHB says

    September 25, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    FX

    I’m more troubled, than amused, by the ruling.

    Sure it’s a case that the trademark holder should have won, but there is no scorecard in the sky that “makes up” in some way for bad decisions that went against domain holders on other decisions.

    As a lawyer and a domain holder I would rather know the law going in and feel confident that I’m on the right side, rather than basically buying a lottery ticket & watch results on TV.

  7. JB says

    September 26, 2009 at 12:46 am

    This ruling is mind blowing. I miss my 1967 912 too…

  8. Dominik Mueller says

    September 26, 2009 at 7:20 am

    Porsche should have won this one… It is alarming that UDRP decisions are almost impossible to predict. Some of those UDRP panelists apparently have no clue what they’re doing.

    @Anunt: I wouldn’t agree that Porsche is without reserve the best of them. Both BMW and Porsche make excellent cars (in my opinion). Overall, the BMW 7-series and the Porsche Cayenne may be the best cars I’ve driven so far.

  9. Danny Pryor says

    September 26, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Unclear Domain Rights Policy … jeez!

  10. jp says

    September 27, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    I would have guessed NAF.

  11. Anon says

    September 27, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    The ruling actually makes sense, given the rules: he didn’t register it to screw Porsche, and didn’t use it for that purpose. Maybe it’s unfair to Porsche, but case closed since you need to fulfill all the three conditions.

  12. Jimps3 says

    September 12, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    This is plain disturbing. I thought this was a NAF decision as well. Regardless, the respondent site had ads on it! And for sale! What the hell is going through these arbitrators minds? Why bother going through all the trademark hassle if its no good to protect you and your business? I saw a similar arbitration tragedy with selectquote today and it really hit home; I really value free speech but you cant just go on a path of destruction towards a person or company with no regard for false claims and slander/libel. Maybe its time to skip arbitration and just go straight to the courts?

  13. Michael H. Berkens says

    September 12, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Jimps3

    I would assume the Porsche domains had content at the time of the UDRP, and switched to PPC after.

    Porsche can bring another UDRP if circumstances change

  14. Jimps3 says

    September 12, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Thanks for the clarification Michael, I really enjoy this site and look forward to the thought provoking dialogue. I usually just read, but lately, I thought perhaps I would engage some of the brains here and really understand. I am not afraid of questions and to ask questions.


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