Tnooz “Travel domains going for (not exactly) a song”

Linda Fox wrote a piece today on Tnooz.com about Tour.com being put up for sale for $3million.

Tnooz is a global provider of news, analysis, commentary, education, data and business services to the travel, tourism and hospitality industry. It is the leading voice to the industry for all areas related to travel technology.  So travel related domains are something they might like to write about from time to time.
Ms. Fox took a look at the history of the domain, she left off a 1 when saying the domain was 7 years old, it is actually 17 years old this year. She also wondered about the timing with .Tour coming down the line.
She also took a look at some travel related names over the last few years. From the article:

In the past three years, according to information from domain specialist Sedo, a number of premium travel domain sales have taken place:

  • Jerusalem.com – $510,000
  • Visitstockholm.com – $70,000
  • wellnessfinder.com – Euro 300,000
  • sommerhus.dk (Danish summer house rentals) – Euro 87,500
  • gruppenreisen.de (group travel in German) – Euro 59,500
  • hoteles.es  (hotels in Spanish) – Euro 275,000
  • xinjian.com (a region of China) –  $55,000

The company adds that there are more affordable domain such as visiteastlondon, which was sold for $490.

A spokesperson says interest in domain names is high from the travel industry because of increasing numbers of specific travel experiences.

VisitStockholm.com was sold by Mr. Berkens

Schwartz Sells eBet.com For $1,350,000: 5 Online Appraisal Services Value it From $40K to $55

I thought it would be interesting to see what the automated appraisal services had to say about the value of the domain king, Rick Schwartz $1,350,000 Million dollar sale of eBet.com

If your a frequent reader of thedomains.com you know I’m not a huge fan of the online appraisal services but pretty surprised when I checked this domain today and found only 2 of 5 gave it a value in the five figures, not great for a 7 figure domain.

I think a fair conclusion would be based on these services Rick did pretty well for himself and that if you selling domain names based off of these services you might be leaving just a little bit of cash on the table.

Here is Estibot valuation of eBet.com

 

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Domain Appraisal – ebet.com

Domain Details:
  Domain: ebet.com
  SLD: ebet
  Keywords:
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  Category: Other — Generic 4-letter
Appraisal Overview:
  EstiBot Value: $ 12,000 USD     [ currency ]
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Before you get on Estibot.com about their appraisal check out the valuation we got from DomainIndex.com:

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ebet.com

Domain Apprised $55 USD

06-Nov-1996

17 year(s)

appraisal accuracy 80%

 

Here is the appraisal from  DomainWorth.com

 

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Appraised market value as of 10/10/2013 for ebet.com: $6,809

Market Low:$5,380

Market High:$11,888

Domain Details

Best Split: ebet

Domain Length: 4

Creation Date: 11/6/1996

Traffic Ranking

Alexa Rank: 23,547,973

Visits Potential: 27

Alexa Sites Linking In: 1

Moz Domain Authority: 7

Moz Links: 0

AGDPPP: $43,426

Search Engine Searches

Monthly Searches Exact: 5,400

Monthly Searches Broad: 60,500

CPC Exact: $0.7

CPC Broad: $2.7

Advertiser Competition Exact: 1

Advertiser Competition Broad: 4

Similarity & Popularity

Around COM Domains: 16,871

In Title Web Pages: 138,000

Influential Domains Visits Potential: 0

Estimated Search Results: 1,650,000

Here is the appraisal value by urlappraisal.net

 

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The Domain ebet.com is valued at: $3,849.91

CircleId Post Rips The Domain Name IDNX Pricing Index

Alex Tajirian, CEO of DomainMart in a post on CircleID.com just ripped into the IDNX domain name index backed by Thies Lindenthal and Sedo.

“The index is intended to be a benchmark for domain owners and investors. “

“But it’s out of line with other studies and the common sense of how a market operates. A much better barometer to follow is average prices for groups of domain names with similar characteristics.”

“Using a single index would have dire consequences. ”

“Other problems with Lindenthal’s single price index:

1. It’s based on information taken from just one market, Sedo. But other studies reveal that sale prices for similar names vary across marketplaces.

2. The reported index-price correlation with the NASDAQ 100 is grossly misleading. Why would prices of domain names of large companies move in synch with those of small and backdoor domains! One would expect that different groups of domain names would be correlated with different indexes depending on their risk characteristics.

3. The methodology is not robust to the presence of outliers in domain name price data.

4. The model does not identify risk factors driving domain name prices, such as the number of a domain’s key word searches, the cost per click (CPC) of the key word, the popularity of the key word as shown by uses of it on Web sites, etc.

5. The model ignores evidence of a nonlinear relationship between prices and the explanatory variables.””

Of course we have spoken at TheDomains.com about the inaccuracy of automated models to value domains in the past and feel there is no substitute for the human element.

Someone by virtue of having a huge amount of experience in buying and selling domain names over the years.  Extremely long term domain investors  have developed a gut feel for what a domain name is worth.

We saw just the other day once again basically 50% of all domains that sell at Sedo.com sell for $500 or less and only 5% sell for $5,000 or more.

Over at MostWantedDomains.com we have a $2,500 stated minimum but in actuality rarely sell a domain for less than $5,000 and our average sale is closer to over $20K than to $500.

There are other large portfolio owners like Mr Schilling, Mr Schwartz, the Ham Brothers, and Scott Day just to mention a few who wouldn’t even bother to respond to a $500 offer much less sell a domain name for anything under five figures if not six figures.

The IDNX relying on Sedo sales data is maybe a good measure for what a domain would sell for on Sedo but certainly is not a overall representation of the domain resale market.

DnJournal.com publishes a weekly list of all published or public sales, that would give reader a much better understanding of the domain name aftermarket.

FAIL: DomainIndex.com Releases 8 Million Appraisals For New gTLD’s Domain Names

DomainIndex.com has released 8 Million Appraisals for new gTLD domain names those including trademarks and those with just generic terms and the results are pretty interesting.

Mt first observation is that of the new gTLD domain names with the highest valuation, only 1 non-trademarked term has a value in the six figures, Car.Insurance (which may not even be available to be registered depending on which applicant wins the .insurance new gTLD) at $125,000

All other new gTLD domain names are apprised in the five figures by DomainIndex.com

My second observation of the highest valued domain names include domain names in some extensions that have not even been applied for, as new gTLD’s such as the third highest valued domain, hand.bags which DomainIndex places a value of $85,935 on. The problem is no one has applied for .Bags; likewise credit.card which has a value of over $78,000 no one applied to operate a .Card new gTLD, .Cards yes, .Card no, DomainIndex.com gives a value of $84,000 to Hotels.Europe another non-existent new gTLD which would not even be allowed to be applied for under the ICANN Applicant Guidebook.  Also Included erronously are valuations for other extensions that have not been applied for including .Chicago, .houston, .usa and .angeles (which gets you Los.Angeles).

On the other hand new gTLD that have actually been applied for are seemingly not supported by DomainIndex and quiries on valuations returns errors like .NYC for example as our inquiry for hotels.nyc returned this message

We are sorry  hotels.nyc is invalid or unsupported domain name.

Likewise a inquiry for the valution of the domain name night.club returned the same message:

We are sorry night.club is invalid or unsupported domain name

According to DomainIndex.com the value  the keyword, traffic to the domain name are among the factors they used to derive valuation.  However DomainIndex.com seems to give the most valuation to domain hacks like the above non-existent hand.bags, credit.card (of course credit.cards would be a high value.

I know new gTLD registries are not going to be happy with these valuations as many are expecting multiple deals into the six figures for their super premium domain names.

Here are the highest values placed by DomainIndex in general I would place a GIANT FAIL on this attempt:

health.insurance $91,500
gmail.email $86,430
hand.bags $85,935
hotels.paris $85,620
paypal.card $85,027
hotmail.email $85,026
hotels.directory $84,858
hotels.usa $84,650
hotels.europe $84,608
hotels.discount $84,569
health.care $79,125
credit.card $78,390
ebay.shop $75,040
craigs.list $65,003
web.hosting $60,500
yahoo.sport $59,620
app.store $58,770
amazon.usa $58,240
yahoo.sports $56,780
yahoo.chat $56,210
amazon.coupons $56,170
amazon.deals $55,394
amazon.store $55,145
yahoo.directory $55,124
amazon.shop $55,072
amazon.movies $55,030
amazon.shops $55,019
car.rental $49,400
business.cards $48,300
used.cars $42,121
tele.vision $41,818
home.insurance $38,600
tele.phone $38,518
teleph.one $38,203
web.sites $38,000
home.page $36,360
flowers.online $36,230
los.angeles $34,640
web.cam $34,200
flowers.shop $33,490
flowers.direct $33,271
flowers.usa $33,144
auto.insurance $32,950
medi.care $32,882
life.insurance $32,600
home.security $30,910
affiliate.program $30,650
hotel.deals $30,360
frankfurt.airport $30,347
general.hospital $30,311
hotel.california $29,950
web.server $29,900
home.loan $29,330
hotel.berlin $29,320
home.office $29,290
home.care $28,840
hotel.management $28,383
home.work $28,350
marketing.today $28,110
home.land $28,024
home.business $27,914
hotel.jobs $27,737
home.finance $27,723
hotel.finder $27,711
home.repair $27,706
hotel.miami $27,701
hotel.canada $27,689
hotel.rates $27,686
hotel.search $27,686
hotel.toronto $27,671
hotel.chicago $27,635
hotel.discount $27,626
home.finder $27,615
home.credit $27,605
hotel.dallas $27,588
hotel.cafe $27,587
hotel.nyc $27,584
hotel.express $27,572
hotel.direct $27,572
insurance.usa $27,570
home.massage $27,569
home.education $27,569
home.schools $27,569
hotel.manager $27,568
hotel.spain $27,542
hotel.vegas $27,539
home.shop $27,539
hotel.web $27,538
home.properties $27,532
hotel.inn $27,532
hotel.texas $27,526
hotel.development $27,523
home.pizza $27,519
home.university $27,517
hotel.italy $27,502
home.dallas $27,501
pac.man $27,425
cheap.hotels $27,239
watch.movies $27,100
new.york $26,500
greatwallof.china $26,101
web.site $26,000
las.vegas $25,569
web.master $25,220
web.city $25,000
insurance.rates $24,900
web.agency $24,830
loans.today $24,661
stock.market $24,390
web.development $24,320
loans.canada $24,174
loans.online $24,114
loans.direct $24,111
loans.centre $24,070
loans.finance $24,060
loans.mall $24,056
loans.companies $24,056
loans.money $24,052
web.page $24,050
loans.rates $24,036
loans.toronto $24,034
loans.australia $24,034
loans.bank $24,033
loans.now $24,033
loans.loans $24,030
loans.auto $24,028
loans.home $24,025
loans.mortgage $24,022
holi.day $24,022
loans.london $24,019
loans.india $24,018
loans.usa $24,017
loans.houston $24,014
loans.plus $24,012
loans.international $24,012
loans.express $24,011
loans.services $24,011
loans.california $24,010
loans.center $24,010
loans.nyc $24,005
loans.business $24,005
web.chat $23,990
web.mail $23,870
rental.cars $23,707
web.space $23,660
web.marketing $23,461
web.graphics $23,390
web.shop $23,250
web.sex $23,169
web.radio $23,156
insurance.company $23,150
web.services $23,088
web.host $23,005
insurance.card $22,989
web.engineering $22,918
insurance.companies $22,847
cars.auction $22,808
web.game $22,775
cars.guide $22,759
web.store $22,751
insurance.sales $22,688
insurance.lawyers $22,665
insurance.online $22,660
web.directory $22,640
cars.online $22,634
web.attorney $22,631
insurance.health $22,628
cars.canada $22,623
insurance.florida $22,622
web.business $22,614
insurance.car $22,608
cars.parts $22,608
insurance.agency $22,606
insurance.australia $22,603
cell.phone $22,602
web.report $22,602
web.trade $22,598
cars.direct $22,597
web.free $22,592
insurance.life $22,592
insurance.canada $22,588
insurance.house $22,583
insurance.cars $22,577
web.links $22,576
insurance.direct $22,576
cars.australia $22,572
insurance.ireland $22,570
web.search $22,567
cars.toys $22,566
insurance.plan $22,566
web.design $22,566
web.designs $22,565
web.advertising $22,563
insurance.auction $22,563
cars.price $22,561
cars.auctions $22,560
insurance.journal $22,560
web.press $22,560
insurance.marketing $22,560
cars.insurance $22,560
insurance.market $22,559
cars.credit $22,558
cars.finance $22,558
insurance.job $22,558
cars.ireland $22,555
web.cars $22,555
insurance.law $22,555
insurance.world $22,554
web.mobile $22,552
web.team $22,552
web.show $22,551
cars.usa $22,551
web.builders $22,549
insurance.business $22,549
web.email $22,547
web.pages $22,547
cars.deals $22,547
web.star $22,546
web.academy $22,546
web.corp $22,546
insurance.india $22,546
cars.sales $22,546
cars.rental $22,545
insurance.plans $22,544
web.works $22,544
cars.sale $22,544
cars.mexico $22,543
insurance.attorneys $22,542
cars.loans $22,542
web.security $22,541
web.farm $22,540
web.hotel $22,540
web.marine $22,539
insurance.forums $22,539
cars.images $22,538
cars.photos $22,538
web.car $22,538
web.home $22,538
insurance.school $22,538
web.vision $22,537
web.band $22,537
web.card $22,537
insurance.times $22,535
web.exchange $22,535
web.plan $22,535
insurance.technology $22,535
web.photo $22,535
insurance.reviews $22,535
web.media $22,535
cars.club $22,535
cars.tube $22,534
insurance.association $22,534
insurance.exchange $22,534
insurance.prices $22,534
insurance.dental $22,534
web.tickets $22,534
web.village $22,533
cars.prices $22,533
web.auto $22,533
insurance.history $22,532
insurance.factory $22,532
web.deals $22,532
insurance.deals $22,532
web.india $22,532
cars.site $22,532
web.news $22,532
web.kits $22,531
web.gear $22,531
cars.houston $22,531
cars.companies $22,531
insurance.work $22,531
web.srl $22,531
web.shoes $22,531
cars.search $22,531
web.auction $22,530
web.japan $22,530
insurance.sites $22,530
cars.directory $22,530
cars.shop $22,530
cars.quotes $22,529
cars.outlet $22,529
web.download $22,529
web.test $22,529
cars.trade $22,528
web.shopping $22,528
web.casino $22,528
cars.miami $22,527
web.coupons $22,527
cars.loan $22,527
insurance.search $22,527
cars.reviews $22,527
insurance.attorney $22,526
insurance.toronto $22,525
insurance.consultants $22,525
insurance.consulting $22,525
insurance.insurance $22,525
insurance.guide $22,525
insurance.america $22,524
cars.rentals $22,524
web.world $22,524
web.guide $22,524
web.sale $22,524
web.poker $22,523
cars.racing $22,523
web.porn $22,523
web.movies $22,523
web.videos $22,523
cars.videos $22,523
web.consulting $22,523
cars.service $22,523
insurance.central $22,522
insurance.california $22,522
cars.land $22,522
web.institute $22,522
cars.international $22,522
web.hotels $22,522
web.university $22,521
web.data $22,521
web.factory $22,521
cars.japan $22,521
insurance.express $22,521
insurance.magazine $22,521
insurance.tax $22,520
cars.toronto $22,520
web.loans $22,520
web.music $22,520
web.production $22,519
cars.oil $22,519
insurance.loan $22,519
web.sport $22,519
insurance.capital $22,519
insurance.research $22,519
web.one $22,519
cars.repair $22,519
web.bar $22,519
insurance.test $22,519
cars.europe $22,519
insurance.family $22,519
insurance.finder $22,518
web.course $22,518
insurance.corporation $22,518
web.computers $22,518
insurance.report $22,518
web.place $22,518
insurance.london $22,518
cars.books $22,518
web.products $22,518
insurance.center $22,518
web.community $22,517
insurance.portal $22,517
web.tool $22,517
web.internet $22,517
cars.sites $22,517
web.properties $22,517
insurance.network $22,517
web.auctions $22,516
cars.spain $22,516
web.agent $22,516
insurance.finance $22,516
web.property $22,516
insurance.office $22,516
cars.trading $22,515
insurance.texas $22,515
cars.rent $22,514
cars.show $22,514
insurance.plus $22,514
web.tours $22,514
web.europe $22,514
cars.city $22,514
web.review $22,514
insurance.sale $22,514
cars.storage $22,513
cars.motors $22,513
cars.glass $22,513
insurance.discount $22,513
insurance.houston $22,513
insurance.corp $22,513
cars.wholesale $22,512
web.gold $22,512
insurance.global $22,512
web.loan $22,512
web.realestate $22,512
web.nyc $22,512
cars.review $22,512
cars.world $22,512
insurance.homes $22,512
web.society $22,511
web.shirt $22,511
insurance.atlanta $22,511
web.times $22,511
cars.discount $22,511
insurance.centre $22,511
web.solution $22,510
insurance.today $22,510
web.trading $22,510
insurance.mobile $22,510
web.events $22,510
web.ltd $22,510
web.direct $22,510
web.realty $22,510
web.law $22,510
insurance.international $22,510
web.insurance $22,510
insurance.service $22,510
insurance.inc $22,510
web.signs $22,509
web.italy $22,509
cars.mag $22,509
insurance.massage $22,509
web.md $22,509
cars.electronics $22,509
web.diet $22,509
web.berlin $22,509
insurance.tips $22,509
web.usa $22,509
web.inc $22,509
insurance.realestate $22,508
cars.buy $22,507
cars.centre $22,506
cars.texas $22,505
web.cafe $22,505
web.salon $22,502
insurance.home $22,501
insurance.chicago $22,500
house.insurance $22,200
car.hire $22,000
capital.news $21,540
online.dating $21,200
disney.world $20,850
ware.house $20,532
sex.shop $20,500
shopping.mall $20,250
air.canada $20,110
job.bank $20,040

 

You can watch a video on  DomainIndex.com explanation of its valuation of  new gTLD’s here:

http://www.screenr.com/Z1Q7

GoDaddy.com Aftermarket Sells 34,132 Domain Names In February

Godaddy.com sold 34,132 domain names through its Aftermarket/Auction system in February down slightly from January when it sold 35,803.

February sales were led by Xe.co which sold for $37,500

Here are the top 10 sales for February as listed on Godaddy.com site:

2/1 - 2/28
 xe.co $37,500
 chillersystems.com $18,000
 envirocheck.com $16,500
 freebies.org $15,000
 sheltermortgage.com $15,000
 rollover.net $14,500
 discountbusinesscards.com $13,500
 childsponsorship.com $12,995
 marketstrong.com $12,500
 linspire.com $12,02

 

freebies.org is a domain name that we sold.

Of the 34,132 domain names sold:

683 Offer/Counter-Offer
18,379 Auction
15,070 Buy Now