Are .Co Domains Worth More Than .Org Domains?
I couldn’t help but notice (especially when one of the readers pointed it out to me) that DuiAttorney.co sold for $44,500 in the Land Rush Auctions, which is more than I sold duiattorney.org for earlier this year.
Several months ago I sold DuiAttorney.org through Sedo.com for $35,000 which at the time most thought was a fair price.
However in the latest .Co Land Rush Auction report I posted yesterday, DuiAttorney.co sold for $10K more than the .Org.
So the question is are .Co domain now worth more than .Org domains or are ALL domains now worth more because of the amounts being paid in the land rush auctions.
How much more is DuiAttorney.com worth now that someone has ponied up $45K for the .co?
Or are they completely different animals having no bearing on each other?
Personally my domain name, Duilawyer.org is going to now be priced into the six figures based off of these sales.
Are you going to increase the asking prices of your .com’s based off these .co sales?
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@Keyser
//You could go get MarketingJobs.CM and AccountingJobs.CM the only thing missing is the O cant be any worse than a missing M.
We don’t display jobs in Cameroon Africa so no real need to own the CM extension.
I don’t think there is any confusion concerning the ccTLDs. If you site targets that specific country, then why would there be a problem?
90% of our jobs domains are .US extensions. We target the us so it works great. We launched healthcarejobs.us just the other day. And who says there no value in the ccTLDs, healthcrejobs.ie (ireland) sold last month for $16,371.
We started launching our .US jobs sites. Some of the long-tail searches are already on page #1 google. And you know what, people still click on our links and we convert many.
I’ve stated this before, and I’ll say it again:
Domainers have tens of thousands of legit, workable, generic marketable domains in the DOT COM version that they still haven’t sold to an end user.
Most people don’t understand what domains are about.
Most business owners can barely comprehend the value of a generic descriptive DOT COM domain name that represents their own prodserv. An extremely valuable resource to own, worth MORE than the company’s advertising budget for the year (advertising fades after the ads stop, with a half life of no more than 90 days at best). A domain name is an appreciable marketing asset that works continually, year after year – with a $10 annual renewal fee.
If I had the choice of spending $100k on advertising in a newspaper, or buying a domain name in the aftermarket that clearly defined my prodserv, it would be an easy choice — buy the domain, you now have a working asset for your marketing. Don’t like your domain? Sell it and get your money back, or more likely, get a 20%+ profit.
Now, bring in the .CO extension. You have to explain THIS to the public, on TOP of explaining the general value of domains even at the top extension of DOT COMs. If you buy a .CO domain, you have TWO hurdles to jump.
It’s purely psychological – buying great generic terms in the new extensions that are released every year. Anyone remember the land rush on .INFO domains?
My call is that most people RECOGNIZE the .org extension because it’s used so often by non profits. Because of this reality, the .org extension is worth more than .CO (at least that is what will be perceived in 2 years or less). Would you rather own LASVEGASDIVORCE.ORG, or LASVEGASDIVORCE.CO?
Seriously — ask yourself. Em-Bee, you got a great price for your .org. Anyone want to pay $250k for Flowers.mobi?
There is no difference between .CO and .CM as far as typo traffic goes one is lacking the M the other is lacking the O .CM is very well known as a typo extension alla K Ham why are you not all rushing to get a .CM there are plenty of good names available in .CM, where did all the .CO typo traffic go before Arcelandia S.A. and Neustar, Inc got the franchise to market .CO The traffic went to ppc landing pages just like .CM does or it didnt resolve at all. There is no future in this extension unless your market is Columbia if not it may as well be the much cheaper Cameroon. No difference except for the marketing hype between the two and the follow me do what i do syndrome.
.CO lighting up the domaining world again with X.CO
I told you, short does matter.
Why? First, a URL shortener is a great application for a .CO domain and a natural extension of our value proposition by virtue of being one character shorter than .com, .net, .org, and .biz, and two characters shorter than .mobi and .info.
In today’s online world, where every character counts, shorter is always sweeter. And it doesn’t get any shorter or sweeter than X.CO
Holy cow, I just noticed something. Of all the top level general top level domains .CO is the only 2 letter extension. This is amazing important. All others are 3 or 4 letter extensions. Just look:
.com, .net, .org, and .biz
.mobi, and .info
I don’t know about you but as I have said, there is great value in the shortness, usually 10x times when it comes to pricing.
@ Robert Cline
Please stop. Every village has an idiot…
Professional sales people know when to stop.
It is called overselling.
Have you thought about starting your own blog
instead of trying to build seo from here?
coPromoter.co is available
Interesting you are promoting a .com as your website.
But, you don’t own it in .co .
@BFitz
LOL!
X.co a new godaddy.com site check it out guys
Success breeds success. Here is what one person is saying.
“Gotta say I like what I’m seeing so far. I was wondering the other day how many great domains .mobi still has under belt that never saw the light of day. FAIL.
Seems like some smart peeps at the reins of .co.
Think I’ll keep mine and maybe buy some more.”
Momentum is building for .CO
^ Who was it that said that and why should we listen to them? ^
The reason .mobi failed was because it relied on the evolution of two internets (the regular one and a mobile one), which anyone with half a brain knew wasn’t going to occur. While the concept was relevant in the little fragment in time when .mobi was launched, you didn’t need to be Nostradamus to figure out that mobile internet wasn’t going to remain segregated for very long. .mobi was yet another example of tech laughing their asses off at ‘domainers’, since they realized it, but apparently, domainers didn’t (save for Schilling, who mocked .mobi then for precisely the same reason that eventually caused it to fall flat). .mobi could’ve given away free premium .mobi domains, it would’ve still failed hard.
The reason .co will remain on the margins is because it requires set-in-stone consumer sentiments to shift. Boutique marketing of ccTLD’s has been done before (.ws… It means WEBSITE!) and from that, there is a lot to learn about .co. I do agree it’s a bit different and the typo factor is real, but you can’t succeed by repackaging buzzards and selling them as swans.
@Morgan Linton
The difference between you and everyone else is that everybody buys .CO s with the thought of developing them. You buy domain names for typos and other marginal shady schemes it seems.
Ls is buying .co so he can eat well one day
OK, so at this point, both of you are just rambling incoherently.
Yo Ls you miss Namepros ? Why don’t you apply to dnforum and try your ego rants there. The big boys will tear you apart including me
Buy some decent names you punk
I’m done with the talker.
Have fun Ls and enjoy your big Macs
Ls Morgan, why don’t you go off to another board. Typo squatters and other scheme con artists are not welcome here.
This is for serious .CO developers only.
Ls Morgan, you have been citizen arrested and officially booted out of this board effective immediately.
Found guilty of typo squatting and pushing this scheme on to others.
Typo squatting? What the hell are you talking about? I don’t own a single typo name. Perhaps I assassinated John F Kennedy, too?
(Oh, and PS- “domainer”, I am a member at DNForum. Have been for quite some time. Namepros is a toilet of rookies and to be honest, DNF isn’t a whole lot better, these days. Aren’t you the guy who has been saying “.CO IS THE FUTURE! .COM IS DEAD!!” since you joined a few months back? If so, just understand you’re a laughingstock, even if you’re unaware of it)
Ls Morgan, majority rules and at least 2 here have citizen arrested you for pushing typo squatting. You know this is illegal and .CO founders have said they will have ZERO tolerance for this illegal activity.
You need to remove yourself back to Namepros.
LOL
Have fun people with LS the rookie who talks up a game
Robert Cline, we know you like to make hollow comments… This is why you will make comments about .co, but you won’t bet on those same comments, when others are perfectly willing to be against them.
So, I know it’s pointless to offer a standing wager with you- that you cannot point to a single typo name I own (because there aren’t any)- but I will do it anyway.
I own no typo names. You cannot reference a typo name I own.
Just as you can make stupid, baseless and irrational comments about the future of .co, I suppose you can do the same about anything else, including my owning typos. The difference is, while the future of .co allows you an infinite number of ‘tomorrows’ to hold out hope, claiming someone owns typo names should be proven quite easily…. So, I ask you to show the peanut gallery these typo names I own… That simple. No commentary, no bluster, no more retarded comments. Make a monkey of me and show these typo names I own…
This “LS Morgan” or whoever he is impersonating, what a looser.
I beginning to think Robert Cline and this LS Morgan character are the same or at least perhaps working together to create these irrational arguments. So pathetic, you fools are contributing nothing to .Co. Do something more worthy with your time.
I’m perfectly satisfied with every argument I’ve made and its basis in logic.
The one struggling with logic here seems to be you, lumping me into the lamentation of ‘not contributing to .co’. If anything, I’d be more aptly categorized as a .co detractor. Per logic (and basic reading comprehension), obviously, not a contributor.
I’m confident that .CO will be just as good or better than .COM. I believe .CO is the extension that has been hiding for a while and now is it’s time to shine. I personally like .CO more than .COM.
It is going to be recognized as a Company and Corporation extension. It’s true that .CO is the domain extension for Colombia but Google itself is treating it as an International domain rather than a Columbia domain.
Majority of websites are looking to do business and therefore create a company another reason why .CO is a perfect extension. The .COM is known for Commercial.
If any other extension was released I wouldn’t have found it as interesting and worthy but I’m sure many of us will agree that .CO is .COM’s competition.
@Eddy,
Do you read ALL the comments to the blog article, or do you just post what you want to believe?
Domainers haven’t even sold 1/10 of the best .com domains because most businesses don’t understand it’s important to own their generic prodserv. What makes you think .CO will suddenly explode on the scene and all businesses/consumers will understand what the extension is and how it helps their website?
I’m not posting about .CO domains anymore. There was a land rush, some good domains were bought, but until .COM burns out, no other extension is going to replace it. Dream on.
“”because most businesses don’t understand it’s important to own their generic prodserv”"
I think this used to be the case but not so much any more. With SEO growing the understanding of domain names and how they can help or hurt your business is also growing hand in hand.
Its almost common knowledge now a days for ANYONE who owns a website that wants it listed (and believe me, businesses want their website listed in the top search spots) that your domain name plays a role in that. As each day passes more and more businesses become aware of that fact. As each day passes, more businesses attempt to purchase domain names that will help them secure a stronger showing on the listings.
Its the natural evolution of things. 10 years ago, shopping online was virtually non existent. Now, its everywhere. Smaller businesses are now seeing that they can reach a larger audience by putting their products online. In the process they are also learning SEO and what it takes to list in the top searches for a given keyword set.
Its just the way it is. The internet is every dynamic and ever growing. Knowledge is ever changing and ever expanding.
With (I think it was) 80,000,000 .COM domains out there being used or sitting and the resurgence of extensions like .ORG (12% in the last year or two) and .TV (up 83% in the last year or two) shows that there may be a tapering off trend for the .COM extension. In my opinion .COM is in the beginning stages of loosing its luster. Too many people now know that more generics are better and lets face it with 80 million used, most of the generics are GONE!
Just the way I see it
Cheers
.CO is a typo of .COM thats all it is good for unless .CO is used as a destination address for Columbian websites .CO will never make into the serps of Google.COM en’mass a few might sneak through over time but never en’mass how many .CM (Cameroon Africa) websites can you find on Google.com for any major key words “NONE” .CO is the little brother of .CM another typo these extensions have no usefullness in the North American search engines except as a typo nothing more develop all you like have your servers in North America nothing will help in the end once the hype is over and done with .CO will go the way of .CM nobody will remember it except those who paid through the nose for their .CO’s trying to scramble to recover their money and the fat guys will have left the scene after it has been milked for all they can out of .CO
“”.CO is a typo of .COM thats all it is good for”"
Again I hear the same talking points.
Does no one ever decide to do their own research to devise their own thoughts anymore? Just a little bit of research here and you will see that the statement above is completely bogus not only for .CO but for any extension.
Very little research has brought up the fact that per **DAY** there are:
Google 91 million searches
Yahoo 60 million searches
MSN 28 million searches
AOL 16 million searches
Ask 13 million searches
other 6 million searches
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total 213 million searches per day from search engines
Look at how you search the web. Even if you know the address of the site you want to go to, do you type in www(dot) site name (dot) com?
Most people do not… physical type in traffic is obsolete.
Now you could say where you post on search engines is your definitions of type in traffic but that has less to do with the extension and more to do with SEO.
Completely different subject.
The point being is that any extension as a TYPO extension is non existent.
Very, Very, Very little traffic gets typed in now a days. And far less will be typo traffic.
Please for the sake of argument, next time do a little research for yourself. Do not repeat the same broken mantra that others before you have come with.
Its really starting to get tiring.
And for the record. It is my full opinion that .CO still has a long way to go before its considered a very good extension. .COM is still the best.
But of all the latest extensions that have been thrust upon us, .CO has the best chance of actually becoming something!
Just the way I see it.
Cheers
Besides Keyser Söze
We have talked about this subject on Noomle several times before.
You know I will come at you with some sort of research under my belt.
Cheers
Slate
A.K.A. Zorlock
“”how many .CM (Cameroon Africa) websites can you find on Google.com for any major key words “NONE””
@ Keyser Söze
I know we have had this conversation before about SEO and what it takes to list in the top 10 searches on Google or any other search engine.
One of the key factors is Domain age but before we get into that. I want you to look and see how many “KEYWORD” (dot) coms are in the top 10 of Google searches.
Most of the keyword top 10 searches are sub divisions of some other site.
For instance Wiki has tons of top 10 searches for keywords. But each of their top 10 is a sub division of the Wiki site.
It does NOT, I repeat does NOT matter what you extension is (as long as its gTLD). You have the ability to reach the same top 10 searches with a .CO, .CM, .NET, .ORG as you do with a .COM.
It depends on content, keywords, domain age, linkbacks, and soo many other things that we can fill up this thread. Please do NOT confuse SEO with domain extensions. It happens all too often and is wrong almost every time.
Just the way I see it
Cheers
I seriously doubt .co will be successful in the long run and predict you will see vast numbers of them dropping next year with .co sales reverting to the level of extensions such as .me
A few heavy hitters will make (or already did) earn lots of money from them such as clearly the #1 dot-co domainer Michael Mann. My question is how in the world did he manage to get that amazing powerful keyword portfolio. What was his secret?
David
This is not the first time Michael Mann has put together an amazing portfolio of domains is it?
So why would you be surprised that he has done it again?
“”My question is how in the world did he manage to get that amazing powerful keyword portfolio. What was his secret?”"
If I am not mistaken, He registered the .com.co versions of this current .CO domains. So during that grandfathering period, he just exchanged them in.
Now that is from something I read that I can not quote right now. It has not been verified or proven. So take from it what you will.
As far as .CO being successful… its still up in the air. I do commend .CO on several things.
1) they have a great marketing strategy that .ME was surely lacking. I wont get into quantifying that statement right now but if you look around you will read it in some of my other posts.
2) They are keeping the fever alive and will be doing so for the foreseeable future. After the .CO landrush is done they will be auctioning off their PREMIUM domain names (to include single character domains). That will happen in an open auctions. That will surely draw tons of attentions and of course it will be drawn out to maximize exposure.
3) They have already started a following. The more we sit here an talk about it the more it keeps the subject in the forefront of domaining. Whether you like the extension or not, we are all gathered here and on ever major blog/forum to express out opinions. With the combined prolonging of the fever, we will probably be here for some time to come.
So in my opinion. .CO has the best chance to becoming a very good extension to the tune of .ORG or .NET. It has the best chance of any of the past extension and from what I can tell any of the future extensions as well.
Just the way I see it
Cheers
@ Slate:
//It does NOT, I repeat does NOT matter what you extension is (as long as its gTLD). You have the ability to reach the same top 10 searches with a .CO, .CM, .NET, .ORG as you do with a .COM.//
I dont think so. Run any test search that you like on Google.com from a North America location, USA. Show me and anybody else who might be interested “any” ranked sites that are foreign TLDs for any major keyword, example, display the ranking/page position for say “credit” or any other key word/s that display for the United Kingdom .CO.UK, France .FR, Germany .DE, China .CN, pick a Country any Country even Canada .CA you wont find any foreign sites that rank en’mass from a Google.com United States mainland search. .CO will never rank en’mass, EVER.
@Keyser
Way off.Google does not give you the option to geotarget with .co.uk, , fr or any of the other extensiosn you listed(with .co geotargeting is possible).
“It does NOT, I repeat does NOT matter what you extension is (as long as its gTLD). You have the ability to reach the same top 10 searches with a .CO, .CM, .NET, .ORG as you do with a .COM”
But the problem with the above statement made earlier by a contributor is that it’s inaccurate since .CO is a country code extension ccTLD (as is .cm) and NOT a gTLD. As a result, I can’t imagine it ranking well in U.S. Google searches but will rank highly in Colombia Google. Still one more reason I expect the .CO mania to quickly go away and most all the .co names dropping next year when the high renewal bills arrive and it’s realized the domains get very little if any traffic.
“.CO is a country code extension ccTLD…”
That is mantra, largely concocted by Jon Postel, who vanished in 1998.
Some claim he died. The timing was very interesting to say the least.
ICANN was created to give him a corporate vehicle, separate from USC/ISI.
People went forward with ICANN without Postel.
You might want to check his recent FaceBook updates, here in 2010.
Long after 1998, USC/ISI also claimed his email was still working.
Not sure what ‘mantra’ means but I do know ccTLDs and gTLDs (i.e. com net org biz info) are well known and established extension definitions, very likely used by Google. Still can’t see how a geo location extension like .CO could possibly rank well vs the gTLDs, except in Colombia.
@David
Do you think .ORG will exist in 5 years ?
Have you considered that Google can change their “software” that drives search?
Have you looked at Microsoft’s Peer-Name-Resolution-Protocol (PNRP) that replaces DNS ? (for FREE with no central root servers)
@David
Read up on “Google” and “Geo-targetting”.
@David
Maybe a new “Mantra” should be: “MEME” is a better word than “MANTRA”
Sorry, imo, .ORG gTLD is much better vs .CO ccTLD.
I also agree with what Keyser Söze said several posts earlier…
in my humble opinion, if you have not picked up at least a half dozen or so quality .co domains you really should. Don’t be so .com that you are no future good. type in traffic will fade, is fading and branding will rule the big boys will make sure of it. are you a visionary or not? .co is different and you would know if you have any instinct to this business, hope you do! I picked up a fantastic a 6 figure .com version today for 29 bucks …. that is .com price plus inflation since 1999! take a chance you might be happy you did and if not, well don’t renew it after a couple of years, now move one with it!
Well Guys,
I purchased about 12 .CO’s last year, the buyer is very keen on 6 of them, I have the manual appraisal done currently.
$60,000- to $80,000- for 6 domains I purchased just over 10 months ago is that good?