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		<title>By: permalink</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;2o7.net&quot; looks a lot like &quot;207.net&quot;.  Reminds me of &quot;typosquatters&quot;.

Add some subdomains, e.g. 192.168.2o7.net, and it looks a bit like a local (safe), &quot;non-internet&quot; IP address.  This is exactly what they do.

Why would you choose those exact subdomains, out of 1000&#039;s of other possibilities?  

Welcome to Deception 101 a.k.a. internet advertising &quot;analytics&quot;.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniture

Does anyone really care?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2o7.net&#8221; looks a lot like &#8220;207.net&#8221;.  Reminds me of &#8220;typosquatters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Add some subdomains, e.g. 192.168.2o7.net, and it looks a bit like a local (safe), &#8220;non-internet&#8221; IP address.  This is exactly what they do.</p>
<p>Why would you choose those exact subdomains, out of 1000&#8242;s of other possibilities?  </p>
<p>Welcome to Deception 101 a.k.a. internet advertising &#8220;analytics&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniture" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniture</a></p>
<p>Does anyone really care?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: permalink</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawsuits:
http://www.infoworld.com/print/134282

Not to be pessimistic, but I wouldn&#039;t count on any big changes.  People complained about Netscape&#039;s original text cookies when they first came to the public&#039;s attention as they were used by advertisers, but cookies didn&#039;t disappear.  In fact now sites tell users to enable them.  And users comply.  What choice do they have?  If methods become controversial, i.e. there are complaints, then developers just find other ways to get the user data they&#039;re after.  This game has been going on a long time.  The original companies have been sued before but it has not stopped them.  It is far too profitable.  By the time people figure out what&#039;s being collected by the methods these comanies focus on, it&#039;s too late.  The only way to avoid these insidious methods is to understand how they work.  And investing the time and effort to do that is something the public and legislators will probabaly never do.  There are developers out there who make their living working for companies like &quot;Commission Junction&quot;, etc. who spend 24/7 coming up with ways to get various user data; it is their &quot;job&quot; and they take pride in it.  Users may not wish to understand what these developers are up to, but they&#039;ll use the technology anyway.  Therein lies the problem.

&quot;...advertising is the lifeblood of domaining&quot;

According to the &quot;domaining&quot; pundits, &quot;development&quot; and &quot;content&quot; are where domainers should direct their attention.  Not to sound cynical, but I think that&#039;s a red herring.

Advertising is not merely the lifeblood of domaining, it is the lifeblood of *the network*.  

It made a certain search engine (Google) the giant that it is, and it keeps her there (98+% of her revenue).  And arguably, at this stage, Google is &quot;controlling the network&quot;.  Does any other company have more influence over the web?  Wait and see.  If you think social networking is going to overtake Google, it&#039;s still the same principle: advertising is what funds the business.  That&#039;s what enables the company to grow.

In the beginning, decades ago, the money to build out the network, as well as much of the influence, came from other sources.  There was no massive ad revenue fueling companies that could do what Google can do today.

These days, funding may still derive from various non-advertiser origins in order to build network infrastructure, but how signifcant is that overall?  Think of the end result of building it.  Why build the network further?  The &quot;real&quot; driving reason localities want to build and access the network is to get at this massive ad revenue, via local businesses who either will purchase ads on the network, create them or sell space for them.  The businesses that want access to this medium want it for its ad potential.  And it&#039;s advertisers that will drive consumers to the web.  They&#039;ll demand access.

Though things were different in the early days, I think it&#039;s clear that *advertising* is the driving force behind the network now.  &quot;It&#039;s where the money comes from.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawsuits:<br />
<a href="http://www.infoworld.com/print/134282" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoworld.com/print/134282</a></p>
<p>Not to be pessimistic, but I wouldn&#8217;t count on any big changes.  People complained about Netscape&#8217;s original text cookies when they first came to the public&#8217;s attention as they were used by advertisers, but cookies didn&#8217;t disappear.  In fact now sites tell users to enable them.  And users comply.  What choice do they have?  If methods become controversial, i.e. there are complaints, then developers just find other ways to get the user data they&#8217;re after.  This game has been going on a long time.  The original companies have been sued before but it has not stopped them.  It is far too profitable.  By the time people figure out what&#8217;s being collected by the methods these comanies focus on, it&#8217;s too late.  The only way to avoid these insidious methods is to understand how they work.  And investing the time and effort to do that is something the public and legislators will probabaly never do.  There are developers out there who make their living working for companies like &#8220;Commission Junction&#8221;, etc. who spend 24/7 coming up with ways to get various user data; it is their &#8220;job&#8221; and they take pride in it.  Users may not wish to understand what these developers are up to, but they&#8217;ll use the technology anyway.  Therein lies the problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;advertising is the lifeblood of domaining&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the &#8220;domaining&#8221; pundits, &#8220;development&#8221; and &#8220;content&#8221; are where domainers should direct their attention.  Not to sound cynical, but I think that&#8217;s a red herring.</p>
<p>Advertising is not merely the lifeblood of domaining, it is the lifeblood of *the network*.  </p>
<p>It made a certain search engine (Google) the giant that it is, and it keeps her there (98+% of her revenue).  And arguably, at this stage, Google is &#8220;controlling the network&#8221;.  Does any other company have more influence over the web?  Wait and see.  If you think social networking is going to overtake Google, it&#8217;s still the same principle: advertising is what funds the business.  That&#8217;s what enables the company to grow.</p>
<p>In the beginning, decades ago, the money to build out the network, as well as much of the influence, came from other sources.  There was no massive ad revenue fueling companies that could do what Google can do today.</p>
<p>These days, funding may still derive from various non-advertiser origins in order to build network infrastructure, but how signifcant is that overall?  Think of the end result of building it.  Why build the network further?  The &#8220;real&#8221; driving reason localities want to build and access the network is to get at this massive ad revenue, via local businesses who either will purchase ads on the network, create them or sell space for them.  The businesses that want access to this medium want it for its ad potential.  And it&#8217;s advertisers that will drive consumers to the web.  They&#8217;ll demand access.</p>
<p>Though things were different in the early days, I think it&#8217;s clear that *advertising* is the driving force behind the network now.  &#8220;It&#8217;s where the money comes from.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: permalink</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too long ago, Adobe acquired one of the most deceptive and stealth tracking companies.  I was a bit shocked.  Most all the major sites use this &quot;technology&quot; (read: trick) and now Adobe, a company with a mainstream reputation, is behind it.  This tracking data is very valuable to many large companies and I feel very certain there is no way voters and laws will ever stop it.  Companies like Adobe will weasle endlessly to put different spins on controversial stuff they do.  They are very good at it.  They are the ones who stretched DMCA beyond its limits to silence a developer (Google it), who made PDF&#039;s into potential programs that can do nasty things in the hands of malware writers, who have convinced over 90% of internet users to install a piece of software on their computers, called &quot;Flash&quot; (which like PDF can do quite a bit with your PC), and who tried to redefine the now ubiquitous extension .swf as &quot;small web file&quot; when it really means &quot;Shockwave Flash&quot;.  Why?  It seems to me, they do not want users to understand what&#039;s going on, or the potentila risks, but they are champions of &quot;user-friendliness&quot;.  Incidentally, they also emply the guy who proposed the idea of a domain name system way back when, and has stood by for over 20 years while the abuses of it have gotten worse and worse.  I have a paper he wrote in the 80&#039;s where he details many of the same problems we see today.  Yes, the 80&#039;s.  These problems were seen *very early on*.  But, as he wrote in the 80&#039;s, now that everybody&#039;s using it it&#039;s too late to repeal it: it would be far too much hassle.  This is the classic excuse for almost every fatally flawed networking protocol we&#039;re now using.  As long as we keep using them, they will *never* be scrapped, not matter how terrible they may be.
The lesson to be learned here with respect to any of these &quot;technologies&quot; is that &quot;once it&#039;s in widespread use&quot; without major objection, then it&#039;s nearly impossible to scrap it and start over.  And people will create every possible argument to justify its continued existence.

Tracking visitors is very widespread, and the objection is minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago, Adobe acquired one of the most deceptive and stealth tracking companies.  I was a bit shocked.  Most all the major sites use this &#8220;technology&#8221; (read: trick) and now Adobe, a company with a mainstream reputation, is behind it.  This tracking data is very valuable to many large companies and I feel very certain there is no way voters and laws will ever stop it.  Companies like Adobe will weasle endlessly to put different spins on controversial stuff they do.  They are very good at it.  They are the ones who stretched DMCA beyond its limits to silence a developer (Google it), who made PDF&#8217;s into potential programs that can do nasty things in the hands of malware writers, who have convinced over 90% of internet users to install a piece of software on their computers, called &#8220;Flash&#8221; (which like PDF can do quite a bit with your PC), and who tried to redefine the now ubiquitous extension .swf as &#8220;small web file&#8221; when it really means &#8220;Shockwave Flash&#8221;.  Why?  It seems to me, they do not want users to understand what&#8217;s going on, or the potentila risks, but they are champions of &#8220;user-friendliness&#8221;.  Incidentally, they also emply the guy who proposed the idea of a domain name system way back when, and has stood by for over 20 years while the abuses of it have gotten worse and worse.  I have a paper he wrote in the 80&#8242;s where he details many of the same problems we see today.  Yes, the 80&#8242;s.  These problems were seen *very early on*.  But, as he wrote in the 80&#8242;s, now that everybody&#8217;s using it it&#8217;s too late to repeal it: it would be far too much hassle.  This is the classic excuse for almost every fatally flawed networking protocol we&#8217;re now using.  As long as we keep using them, they will *never* be scrapped, not matter how terrible they may be.<br />
The lesson to be learned here with respect to any of these &#8220;technologies&#8221; is that &#8220;once it&#8217;s in widespread use&#8221; without major objection, then it&#8217;s nearly impossible to scrap it and start over.  And people will create every possible argument to justify its continued existence.</p>
<p>Tracking visitors is very widespread, and the objection is minimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could I miss this post? This is great, @ MHB - thanx! :) &quot;Explaining the domain monetization business to legislators&quot; is all this is going to amount to, IMO. It doesn&#039;t make me happy all the tracking and cookies loading slows down my internet surfing experience, since I usually open 30 windows, even with a cable connection. That&#039;s the price of free online surfing. Terms DO specify about 3rd party links &amp; paid ads that put cookies. That&#039;s why there&#039;s software, like AdAware, CCleaner, and PC Tools Spyware Dr to mop up the mess of cookies after each session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could I miss this post? This is great, @ MHB &#8211; thanx! <img src='http://www.thedomains.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;Explaining the domain monetization business to legislators&#8221; is all this is going to amount to, IMO. It doesn&#8217;t make me happy all the tracking and cookies loading slows down my internet surfing experience, since I usually open 30 windows, even with a cable connection. That&#8217;s the price of free online surfing. Terms DO specify about 3rd party links &amp; paid ads that put cookies. That&#8217;s why there&#8217;s software, like AdAware, CCleaner, and PC Tools Spyware Dr to mop up the mess of cookies after each session.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2010/07/31/ica-watch-the-federal-online-privacy-legislation-it-may-effect-domains/comment-page-1/#comment-52862</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dropped

Sorry we do not exchange links</description>
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<p>Sorry we do not exchange links</p>
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		<title>By: Dropped Domains</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2010/07/31/ica-watch-the-federal-online-privacy-legislation-it-may-effect-domains/comment-page-1/#comment-52856</link>
		<dc:creator>Dropped Domains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to exchange links with your site.Is this possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to exchange links with your site.Is this possible?</p>
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		<title>By: BullS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BullS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spying  is nothing new.  
It is  like my noisy neighbors.

If you cannot handle this kind of spying, go live in the caves with Osama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spying  is nothing new.<br />
It is  like my noisy neighbors.</p>
<p>If you cannot handle this kind of spying, go live in the caves with Osama.</p>
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		<title>By: David J Castello</title>
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		<dc:creator>David J Castello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason #10,251 to get your own advertisers.</description>
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