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		<title>By: Domisfera &#187; Articulo &#187; Demanda judicial in rem contra el dominio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domisfera &#187; Articulo &#187; Demanda judicial in rem contra el dominio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Holdings (Omaha, Estados Unidos) representado por Hinckley, Allen &amp; Snyder perdi&#243; en 2010 una demanda UDRP por el dominio gen&#233;rico firstquote.com que ten&#237;a Isaac [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Holdings (Omaha, Estados Unidos) representado por Hinckley, Allen &amp; Snyder perdi&oacute; en 2010 una demanda UDRP por el dominio gen&eacute;rico firstquote.com que ten&iacute;a Isaac [...]</p>
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		<title>By: After UDRP and lawsuit, FirstQuote.com given to insurance company - Domain Name Wire</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2010/06/11/wipo-denies-complaint-on-the-parked-domain-firstquote-com-by-trademark-holder-did-being-offshore-save-them/comment-page-1/#comment-101510</link>
		<dc:creator>After UDRP and lawsuit, FirstQuote.com given to insurance company - Domain Name Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 2010 a UDRP panel found in favor of the respondent for the domain name [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 2010 a UDRP panel found in favor of the respondent for the domain name [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; After Losing UDRP, Complainant Sues to Get FirstQuote.com - The Domain Industry's News Source</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2010/06/11/wipo-denies-complaint-on-the-parked-domain-firstquote-com-by-trademark-holder-did-being-offshore-save-them/comment-page-1/#comment-70124</link>
		<dc:creator>Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; After Losing UDRP, Complainant Sues to Get FirstQuote.com - The Domain Industry's News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a trademark for 1stQuote lost a UDRP for the domain name FirstQuote.com. On the balance, the panel found that the domain name owner registered it due to the generic nature of the domain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a trademark for 1stQuote lost a UDRP for the domain name FirstQuote.com. On the balance, the panel found that the domain name owner registered it due to the generic nature of the domain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frantisek Mrazek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frantisek Mrazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI they filled IN REM in Virginia
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/virginia/vaedce/1:2010cv01349/260477/
Yet another idiots who want to burn hundreds of thousands instead of simply buy the domain for 1/10th of that amount</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI they filled IN REM in Virginia<br />
<a href="http://dockets.justia.com/docket/virginia/vaedce/1:2010cv01349/260477/" rel="nofollow">http://dockets.justia.com/docket/virginia/vaedce/1:2010cv01349/260477/</a><br />
Yet another idiots who want to burn hundreds of thousands instead of simply buy the domain for 1/10th of that amount</p>
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		<title>By: Domo Sapiens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domo Sapiens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this to be very helpful ( posted a while back a a sticky @ domainstate by Domain Guru &quot;Safesys&quot;)
 ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200613174.pdf

Trademark law distinguishes four gradations of distinctiveness of marks, in 
descending order of strength: fanciful or arbitrary, suggestive, descriptive, and 
generic.

An arbitrary or fanciful mark bears no logical relationship to the product 
or service it is used to represent. Soweco, Inc. v. Shell Oil Co., 617 F.2d 1178, 
1184 (5th Cir. 1980) (giving example of &quot;Kodak&quot;). 

A suggestive mark refers to 
some characteristic of the goods, but requires a leap of the imagination to get from 
the mark to the product. Id. (giving example of &quot;Penguin&quot; for refrigerators). 

A descriptive mark identifies a characteristic or quality of the service or product. Id. 
at 1183-84 (giving example of &quot;Vision Center&quot; for eyeglasses store). 

There are several different approaches to defining &quot;generic.&quot; By one test, a 
generic name refers to &quot;a particular genus or class of which an individual article or 
service is but a member.&quot; Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1183 (internal quotation marks 
omitted). By another measure, a generic name is the term by which the product or 
service itself is commonly known. See Nat&#039;l Conference of Bar Exam&#039;rs v. 
Multistate Legal Studies, 692 F.2d 478, 487 (7th Cir. 1982). Still other courts say 
a generic name depicts the product or service as a whole, rather than any particular 
feature, quality, or characteristic of the whole. Blinded Veterans Ass&#039;n v. Blinded 
Am. Veterans Found., 872 F.2d 1035, 1039 (D.C. Cir. 1989) (citing Zatarains, Inc. 
v. Oak Grove Smokehouse, Inc., 698 F.2d 786, 790 (5th Cir. 1983)). Genericness 
lies not in the term itself, but in the use of the term: &quot;A word may be generic of 
some things and not of others: &#039;ivory&#039; is generic of elephant tusks but arbitrary as 
applied to soap.&quot; Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1183. 

A generic use of a word may not be registered as a trademark. Park &#039;N Fly, 
Inc. v. Dollar Park &amp; Fly, Inc., 469 U.S. 189, 194 (1985). A descriptive name, on 
the other hand, though not inherently distinctive, can acquire distinctiveness or 
&quot;secondary meaning&quot; by becoming associated with the proprietor&#039;s product or 
service. Am. Television &amp; Communications Corp. v. Am. Communications &amp;
Television, Inc., 810 F.2d 1546, 1548-49 (11th Cir. 1987). A name has acquired 
secondary meaning when &quot;the primary significance of the term in the minds of the 
[consuming] public is not the product but the producer.&quot; Id. at 1549 (quoting 
Vision Ctr. v. Opticks, Inc., 596 F.2d 111, 118 (5th Cir. 1979) (quoting Kellogg 
Co. v. Nat&#039;l Biscuit Co., 305 U.S. 111, 118 (1938))). A proprietor can make a 
prima facie showing of &quot;secondary meaning&quot; by showing that the name has been 
used in connection with the proprietor&#039;s goods or service continuously and 
substantially exclusively for five years. 15 U.S.C. Â§ 1052(f). Whether a name has 
attained secondary meaning depends on the length and nature of the name&#039;s use, 
the nature and extent of advertising and promotion of the name, the efforts of the 
proprietor to promote a conscious connection between the name and the business, 
and the degree of actual recognition by the public that the name designates the 
proprietor&#039;s product or service. Conagra, Inc. v. Singleton, 743 F.2d 1508, 1513 
(11th Cir. 1984).

Courts have generally held that a term used generically cannot be 
appropriated from the public domain; therefore, even if the name becomes in some 
degree associated with the source, a generic mark cannot achieve true secondary 
meaning. See Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1185 n.20 (secondary meaning not relevant to 
generic mark); Vision Ctr. v. Opticks, Inc., 596 F.2d 111, 115 &amp; n. 11 (5th Cir. 
1979) (&quot;Most courts hold that a generic term is incapable of achieving trade name
protection&quot;; courts refuse to allow proof of secondary meaning to elevate generic 
term to trademark status); see also Schwan&#039;s IP, LLC v. Kraft Pizza Co., 460 F.3d 
971, 974 (8th Cir. 2006); Zatarains, Inc. v. Oak Grove Smokehouse, Inc., 698 F.2d 
786, 790-91 (5th Cir. 1983); Nat&#039;l Conference of Bar Exam&#039;rs, 692 F.2d at 487; 2 
J. Thomas McCarthy, McCarthy on Trademarks and Unfair Competition Â§ 15:24 
(4th ed. 2007). But see Am. Heritage Life Ins. Co. v. Heritage Life Ins. Co., 494 
F.2d 3, 11 (5th Cir. 1974) (generic name will be protected if it acquires secondary 
meaning). 

additionally:
but by definition a trademark has to be distinctive in its class to be capable of being registered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this to be very helpful ( posted a while back a a sticky @ domainstate by Domain Guru &#8220;Safesys&#8221;)<br />
 ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200613174.pdf</p>
<p>Trademark law distinguishes four gradations of distinctiveness of marks, in<br />
descending order of strength: fanciful or arbitrary, suggestive, descriptive, and<br />
generic.</p>
<p>An arbitrary or fanciful mark bears no logical relationship to the product<br />
or service it is used to represent. Soweco, Inc. v. Shell Oil Co., 617 F.2d 1178,<br />
1184 (5th Cir. 1980) (giving example of &#8220;Kodak&#8221;). </p>
<p>A suggestive mark refers to<br />
some characteristic of the goods, but requires a leap of the imagination to get from<br />
the mark to the product. Id. (giving example of &#8220;Penguin&#8221; for refrigerators). </p>
<p>A descriptive mark identifies a characteristic or quality of the service or product. Id.<br />
at 1183-84 (giving example of &#8220;Vision Center&#8221; for eyeglasses store). </p>
<p>There are several different approaches to defining &#8220;generic.&#8221; By one test, a<br />
generic name refers to &#8220;a particular genus or class of which an individual article or<br />
service is but a member.&#8221; Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1183 (internal quotation marks<br />
omitted). By another measure, a generic name is the term by which the product or<br />
service itself is commonly known. See Nat&#8217;l Conference of Bar Exam&#8217;rs v.<br />
Multistate Legal Studies, 692 F.2d 478, 487 (7th Cir. 1982). Still other courts say<br />
a generic name depicts the product or service as a whole, rather than any particular<br />
feature, quality, or characteristic of the whole. Blinded Veterans Ass&#8217;n v. Blinded<br />
Am. Veterans Found., 872 F.2d 1035, 1039 (D.C. Cir. 1989) (citing Zatarains, Inc.<br />
v. Oak Grove Smokehouse, Inc., 698 F.2d 786, 790 (5th Cir. 1983)). Genericness<br />
lies not in the term itself, but in the use of the term: &#8220;A word may be generic of<br />
some things and not of others: &#8216;ivory&#8217; is generic of elephant tusks but arbitrary as<br />
applied to soap.&#8221; Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1183. </p>
<p>A generic use of a word may not be registered as a trademark. Park &#8216;N Fly,<br />
Inc. v. Dollar Park &amp; Fly, Inc., 469 U.S. 189, 194 (1985). A descriptive name, on<br />
the other hand, though not inherently distinctive, can acquire distinctiveness or<br />
&#8220;secondary meaning&#8221; by becoming associated with the proprietor&#8217;s product or<br />
service. Am. Television &amp; Communications Corp. v. Am. Communications &amp;<br />
Television, Inc., 810 F.2d 1546, 1548-49 (11th Cir. 1987). A name has acquired<br />
secondary meaning when &#8220;the primary significance of the term in the minds of the<br />
[consuming] public is not the product but the producer.&#8221; Id. at 1549 (quoting<br />
Vision Ctr. v. Opticks, Inc., 596 F.2d 111, 118 (5th Cir. 1979) (quoting Kellogg<br />
Co. v. Nat&#8217;l Biscuit Co., 305 U.S. 111, 118 (1938))). A proprietor can make a<br />
prima facie showing of &#8220;secondary meaning&#8221; by showing that the name has been<br />
used in connection with the proprietor&#8217;s goods or service continuously and<br />
substantially exclusively for five years. 15 U.S.C. Â§ 1052(f). Whether a name has<br />
attained secondary meaning depends on the length and nature of the name&#8217;s use,<br />
the nature and extent of advertising and promotion of the name, the efforts of the<br />
proprietor to promote a conscious connection between the name and the business,<br />
and the degree of actual recognition by the public that the name designates the<br />
proprietor&#8217;s product or service. Conagra, Inc. v. Singleton, 743 F.2d 1508, 1513<br />
(11th Cir. 1984).</p>
<p>Courts have generally held that a term used generically cannot be<br />
appropriated from the public domain; therefore, even if the name becomes in some<br />
degree associated with the source, a generic mark cannot achieve true secondary<br />
meaning. See Soweco, 617 F.2d at 1185 n.20 (secondary meaning not relevant to<br />
generic mark); Vision Ctr. v. Opticks, Inc., 596 F.2d 111, 115 &amp; n. 11 (5th Cir.<br />
1979) (&#8220;Most courts hold that a generic term is incapable of achieving trade name<br />
protection&#8221;; courts refuse to allow proof of secondary meaning to elevate generic<br />
term to trademark status); see also Schwan&#8217;s IP, LLC v. Kraft Pizza Co., 460 F.3d<br />
971, 974 (8th Cir. 2006); Zatarains, Inc. v. Oak Grove Smokehouse, Inc., 698 F.2d<br />
786, 790-91 (5th Cir. 1983); Nat&#8217;l Conference of Bar Exam&#8217;rs, 692 F.2d at 487; 2<br />
J. Thomas McCarthy, McCarthy on Trademarks and Unfair Competition Â§ 15:24<br />
(4th ed. 2007). But see Am. Heritage Life Ins. Co. v. Heritage Life Ins. Co., 494<br />
F.2d 3, 11 (5th Cir. 1974) (generic name will be protected if it acquires secondary<br />
meaning). </p>
<p>additionally:<br />
but by definition a trademark has to be distinctive in its class to be capable of being registered.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl

The decision and my post contained the price the domain was purchased for:



“”The Respondent acquired the disputed domain name on February 24, 2010 from an aftermarket service for the amount of $4,074&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl</p>
<p>The decision and my post contained the price the domain was purchased for:</p>
<p>“”The Respondent acquired the disputed domain name on February 24, 2010 from an aftermarket service for the amount of $4,074&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great case, and GREAT domain I may add. I wonder how much it sold on the aftermarket. To me appears like at least a $25k domain, and they didn&#039;t request a 3-member panel. That is risky.

 But overall I do not think being offshore was the main issue. I think the panelist truly felt that it was a completive term in a very competitive industry where lots of insurance companies would love to get their hands on a domain like this. And we are all familiar how thousands of websites use the phrase &quot;first quote&quot; to get you to sign up. So... IMO that was the deciding factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great case, and GREAT domain I may add. I wonder how much it sold on the aftermarket. To me appears like at least a $25k domain, and they didn&#8217;t request a 3-member panel. That is risky.</p>
<p> But overall I do not think being offshore was the main issue. I think the panelist truly felt that it was a completive term in a very competitive industry where lots of insurance companies would love to get their hands on a domain like this. And we are all familiar how thousands of websites use the phrase &#8220;first quote&#8221; to get you to sign up. So&#8230; IMO that was the deciding factor.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2010/06/11/wipo-denies-complaint-on-the-parked-domain-firstquote-com-by-trademark-holder-did-being-offshore-save-them/comment-page-1/#comment-47293</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godaddy.com falls into the first category as well, it is certain not generic.

domains.com or domainnames.com would be example of generic names in the domain space</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godaddy.com falls into the first category as well, it is certain not generic.</p>
<p>domains.com or domainnames.com would be example of generic names in the domain space</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aggro, thanx for input.  Here are sample td&#039;s based on your description - what do you say?

-fanciful or arbitrary - Flikr
-suggestive - Internatational Business Machines (IBM)
-descriptive - Internatational Business Machines (IBM) ?
-generic - Go Daddy is generic.  Anything to do with domains can&#039;t use the name, &quot;Go Daddy. &quot; Or Amazon.  Anything to do with books can&#039;t use, &quot;Amazon&quot; - are those good examples?

Is IBM suggestive or descriptive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aggro, thanx for input.  Here are sample td&#8217;s based on your description &#8211; what do you say?</p>
<p>-fanciful or arbitrary &#8211; Flikr<br />
-suggestive &#8211; Internatational Business Machines (IBM)<br />
-descriptive &#8211; Internatational Business Machines (IBM) ?<br />
-generic &#8211; Go Daddy is generic.  Anything to do with domains can&#8217;t use the name, &#8220;Go Daddy. &#8221; Or Amazon.  Anything to do with books can&#8217;t use, &#8220;Amazon&#8221; &#8211; are those good examples?</p>
<p>Is IBM suggestive or descriptive?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To sum up, other than in the above-cited  cases, compelling facts and circumstances on the record of this case do not suggest that the disputed domain name was registered in bad faith. Accordingly, the transfer of the disputed domain name is denied.&quot;

The above quote is the crux of the decision.  Weak mark, valid explanation regarding registration and use and no presumption of prior knowledge due to location of the respondent.  If the respondent had defaulted complainant would have won. If the respondent had been from the US it would have been a very close call and I can think of 20 or so other panelists who would have granted the complaint. Respondent took a risk with a single panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To sum up, other than in the above-cited  cases, compelling facts and circumstances on the record of this case do not suggest that the disputed domain name was registered in bad faith. Accordingly, the transfer of the disputed domain name is denied.&#8221;</p>
<p>The above quote is the crux of the decision.  Weak mark, valid explanation regarding registration and use and no presumption of prior knowledge due to location of the respondent.  If the respondent had defaulted complainant would have won. If the respondent had been from the US it would have been a very close call and I can think of 20 or so other panelists who would have granted the complaint. Respondent took a risk with a single panel.</p>
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