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	<title>Comments on: BeckStrom: Did ICANN&#8217;s Beckstrom Say That .Net&#8217;s Are Basically Worthless?  Several People Say Yes</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brianwick

I think you will find that people distinguish .ORG&#039;s from .COM&#039;s quite regularly (although I&#039;m sure there are still lots of mistakes). The reason people recognize .ORG&#039;s is that there are hundreds of thousands of organizations, all with memberships and volunteers and other recognization factors (redcross.org), that continue to promote this extension worldwide to millions of people through their website domain names.

Thus, a .org domain name, if branded and promoted, will retain some recognition factors to make the domain name more valuable than not, if the brand generic phrase is strong. My experience shows that .COM&#039;s and .ORG extensions are the most viewed and remembered extensions in the world.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brianwick</p>
<p>I think you will find that people distinguish .ORG&#8217;s from .COM&#8217;s quite regularly (although I&#8217;m sure there are still lots of mistakes). The reason people recognize .ORG&#8217;s is that there are hundreds of thousands of organizations, all with memberships and volunteers and other recognization factors (redcross.org), that continue to promote this extension worldwide to millions of people through their website domain names.</p>
<p>Thus, a .org domain name, if branded and promoted, will retain some recognition factors to make the domain name more valuable than not, if the brand generic phrase is strong. My experience shows that .COM&#8217;s and .ORG extensions are the most viewed and remembered extensions in the world.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: brianwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in rare cases technology .nets can be branded, like VoiceMail.net - but CheapApartments.net or CheapHomes.net and CapitolHill.net - well you will get more value for your $7 at the movie theater - same with .orgs - and every other non.com is completely worthless - that is why I have dropped all 50 or so of my non.coms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in rare cases technology .nets can be branded, like VoiceMail.net &#8211; but CheapApartments.net or CheapHomes.net and CapitolHill.net &#8211; well you will get more value for your $7 at the movie theater &#8211; same with .orgs &#8211; and every other non.com is completely worthless &#8211; that is why I have dropped all 50 or so of my non.coms</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a domain appraiser, I can assure domain investors that there are valuable .net&#039;s, and that plenty of businesses use them - regularly branding them.  These businesses are usually connected with internet business, though, but not always. I am dealing with a landscaping market and collecting business cards from my interested parties, many of them who bought the &quot;.net&quot; because the .com wasn&#039;t available. The majority of people out there still don&#039;t understand this &quot;domain value&quot; thing.

For valuation, a good one word .net will work very nicely in SEO prepping for PR.   If I wanted to &quot;control&quot; a domain phrase that was generic descriptive, and knowing the &quot;uneducated&quot; business media departments preferring to buy a OOTB .NET domain over paying several thousand or more for the .COM  (the preferred way to go), I&#039;d say that purchasing the .com and .net version of a clear &quot;natural&quot; would be wise, and if you couldn&#039;t get the .COM, get the .NET and for sure, get the .ORG (second most recognized TLD in service).

 I sold a mid 4 figure domain this weekend, and added the .net version for the buyer, who already had owned the .org. He now has a 11 year old five letter domain leading his group of all the top three TLD&#039;s... including the .net. He owns the brand now. 

What&#039;s unusual is someone in a high level position at ICANN not preventing themselves from revealing their *ahem*... thinking strategies.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a domain appraiser, I can assure domain investors that there are valuable .net&#8217;s, and that plenty of businesses use them &#8211; regularly branding them.  These businesses are usually connected with internet business, though, but not always. I am dealing with a landscaping market and collecting business cards from my interested parties, many of them who bought the &#8220;.net&#8221; because the .com wasn&#8217;t available. The majority of people out there still don&#8217;t understand this &#8220;domain value&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>For valuation, a good one word .net will work very nicely in SEO prepping for PR.   If I wanted to &#8220;control&#8221; a domain phrase that was generic descriptive, and knowing the &#8220;uneducated&#8221; business media departments preferring to buy a OOTB .NET domain over paying several thousand or more for the .COM  (the preferred way to go), I&#8217;d say that purchasing the .com and .net version of a clear &#8220;natural&#8221; would be wise, and if you couldn&#8217;t get the .COM, get the .NET and for sure, get the .ORG (second most recognized TLD in service).</p>
<p> I sold a mid 4 figure domain this weekend, and added the .net version for the buyer, who already had owned the .org. He now has a 11 year old five letter domain leading his group of all the top three TLD&#8217;s&#8230; including the .net. He owns the brand now. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s unusual is someone in a high level position at ICANN not preventing themselves from revealing their *ahem*&#8230; thinking strategies.  <img src='http://www.thedomains.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Well both Fairwinds and the ICANN rep talk about Mo Rocca, and a joke, however as Fairwinds tells Mo made a joke about Beckstrom statement on .net&#039;s value not that the statement of Beckstrom was the joke as the ICANN rep states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>Well both Fairwinds and the ICANN rep talk about Mo Rocca, and a joke, however as Fairwinds tells Mo made a joke about Beckstrom statement on .net&#8217;s value not that the statement of Beckstrom was the joke as the ICANN rep states.</p>
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		<title>By: John Daly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Daly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only news I trust Fairwinds with is to inform me when someone ELSE actually sells a good domain and since when do we go to Mo Rocca for humor?? He&#039;s the .net to Colbert&#039;s .com. That&#039;s right I said it, cat fight anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only news I trust Fairwinds with is to inform me when someone ELSE actually sells a good domain and since when do we go to Mo Rocca for humor?? He&#8217;s the .net to Colbert&#8217;s .com. That&#8217;s right I said it, cat fight anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: domain box</title>
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		<dc:creator>domain box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairwinds quote 
&quot;If the head of the organization is agreeing that the second most popular gTLD is “worthless,” then why are ICANN and the businesses that dominate the ICANN community trying so hard to introduce more potentially “worthless” extensions?&quot;

Brad, maybe you should &quot;call-out&quot; Josh Bourne rather than Michael.
Fairwinds is the one misleading his corporate members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairwinds quote<br />
&#8220;If the head of the organization is agreeing that the second most popular gTLD is “worthless,” then why are ICANN and the businesses that dominate the ICANN community trying so hard to introduce more potentially “worthless” extensions?&#8221;</p>
<p>Brad, maybe you should &#8220;call-out&#8221; Josh Bourne rather than Michael.<br />
Fairwinds is the one misleading his corporate members.</p>
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		<title>By: John A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clowns keep mentioning how .info is a failure, yet there are just short of 6 million .info extensions registered. 

Although that is half the number of .net&#039;s that are registered, you must remember that the .net extension came out 16 years before the .info extension was introduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clowns keep mentioning how .info is a failure, yet there are just short of 6 million .info extensions registered. </p>
<p>Although that is half the number of .net&#8217;s that are registered, you must remember that the .net extension came out 16 years before the .info extension was introduced.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad

&quot;&quot;The title and first paragraph of the blog are inaccurate. Beckstrom never said that ‘ .NET, is “worthless”&quot;&quot;

This is why I put a question mark at the end of the title.  

The post title asks a questions, rather than makes a statement and therefore cannot be said to be inaccurate

Mr. Beckstrom&#039;s reported statement came from a post on Fairwind&#039;s blog, as I attributed the statement to and according to the author of the blog who I talked to personally several people in attendance heard Mr. Beckstrom to say the negative comments that Fairwind&#039;s discussed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;The title and first paragraph of the blog are inaccurate. Beckstrom never said that ‘ .NET, is “worthless”&#8221;"</p>
<p>This is why I put a question mark at the end of the title.  </p>
<p>The post title asks a questions, rather than makes a statement and therefore cannot be said to be inaccurate</p>
<p>Mr. Beckstrom&#8217;s reported statement came from a post on Fairwind&#8217;s blog, as I attributed the statement to and according to the author of the blog who I talked to personally several people in attendance heard Mr. Beckstrom to say the negative comments that Fairwind&#8217;s discussed</p>
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		<title>By: George Kirikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Kirikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not post the FULL video, and let the public decide?

More importantly, it&#039;s interesting ICANN&#039;s media affairs pounced on this issue, but said not a word about the executive compensation issue, the &quot;Bullshitters Anonymous&quot; trademark application issue, the Ombudsman/Air Canada issue, ICANN censorship issue and so many other issues that have been in the public eye (some of which are linked to in my Twitter feed, but which Mike, Andrew of DNW.com, Ron at DNJournal.com, the guys at DNN.com and elsewhere have covered).

There are also nearly *20* ICANN open public comment periods, many of them ending on the same date (April Fool&#039;s Day, ironically), and instead of staggering them as has been suggested, they&#039;ve been left to overburden the public, or worse, left to end quietly without the public bothering to say anything, and thereby allowing the staff to get their way.

When the IOC sends a letter, ICANN jumps to attention. When domain registrants who own far more domains than the IOC give their input, ICANN ignores them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not post the FULL video, and let the public decide?</p>
<p>More importantly, it&#8217;s interesting ICANN&#8217;s media affairs pounced on this issue, but said not a word about the executive compensation issue, the &#8220;Bullshitters Anonymous&#8221; trademark application issue, the Ombudsman/Air Canada issue, ICANN censorship issue and so many other issues that have been in the public eye (some of which are linked to in my Twitter feed, but which Mike, Andrew of DNW.com, Ron at DNJournal.com, the guys at DNN.com and elsewhere have covered).</p>
<p>There are also nearly *20* ICANN open public comment periods, many of them ending on the same date (April Fool&#8217;s Day, ironically), and instead of staggering them as has been suggested, they&#8217;ve been left to overburden the public, or worse, left to end quietly without the public bothering to say anything, and thereby allowing the staff to get their way.</p>
<p>When the IOC sends a letter, ICANN jumps to attention. When domain registrants who own far more domains than the IOC give their input, ICANN ignores them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to set the record straight,  Rod Beckstrom DID NOT say  that .net’s are “basically worthless.”  

A  review of a video made at the event reveals that about 5-minutes into a panel discussion the following 35-second exchange took place  between Beckstrom, the panel moderator and satirist Mo Rocca. 
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(Moderator -  Kevin Maney, Technology Writer): “ I went looking for a MoRocca-dot-com and there is not one.”

(Panelist – Mo Rocca, Author/Humorist):  “It was a South Korean clothier and now it’s nothing, it’s very insulting that no one has hijacked my name.  (laughter)  But not having a stalker, it’s really demoralizing (laughter). “

(Panelist – Rod Beckstrom, ICANN CEO): (laughter)  “We’re rooting for you Mo….  We’re rooting for you…, someday….” 

(Rocca - to Beckstrom): “Don’t you control all of  that?” 

(Beckstrom): “Well yeah, sort of, yeah.”

(Rocca): “Can you get me MoRocca-dot-com?  (laughter)  I have Mo Rocca-dot-net, but it’s worthless.”

(Beckstrom):  Yeah, We could, but it wouldn’t be very popular.  (laughter)  Oh it is? it’s worthless?  Yeah well… we’ll try to help you with some marketing. 
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Beckstrom was responding to and asking Mo Rocca’s about his domain, he  never made any type of generalized comment about  .net  TLDs.”

The title and first paragraph of the blog are inaccurate.  Beckstrom never said that ‘ .NET, is “worthless”.’

Nor does he believe that to be the case.  In fact Beckstrom believes that all .NET domain registrations are worth at least what the registrants pay for them, otherwise they would not renew.

Brad White
Director – Media Affairs
ICANN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to set the record straight,  Rod Beckstrom DID NOT say  that .net’s are “basically worthless.”  </p>
<p>A  review of a video made at the event reveals that about 5-minutes into a panel discussion the following 35-second exchange took place  between Beckstrom, the panel moderator and satirist Mo Rocca.<br />
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<p>(Moderator &#8211;  Kevin Maney, Technology Writer): “ I went looking for a MoRocca-dot-com and there is not one.”</p>
<p>(Panelist – Mo Rocca, Author/Humorist):  “It was a South Korean clothier and now it’s nothing, it’s very insulting that no one has hijacked my name.  (laughter)  But not having a stalker, it’s really demoralizing (laughter). “</p>
<p>(Panelist – Rod Beckstrom, ICANN CEO): (laughter)  “We’re rooting for you Mo….  We’re rooting for you…, someday….” </p>
<p>(Rocca &#8211; to Beckstrom): “Don’t you control all of  that?” </p>
<p>(Beckstrom): “Well yeah, sort of, yeah.”</p>
<p>(Rocca): “Can you get me MoRocca-dot-com?  (laughter)  I have Mo Rocca-dot-net, but it’s worthless.”</p>
<p>(Beckstrom):  Yeah, We could, but it wouldn’t be very popular.  (laughter)  Oh it is? it’s worthless?  Yeah well… we’ll try to help you with some marketing.<br />
_______________</p>
<p>Beckstrom was responding to and asking Mo Rocca’s about his domain, he  never made any type of generalized comment about  .net  TLDs.”</p>
<p>The title and first paragraph of the blog are inaccurate.  Beckstrom never said that ‘ .NET, is “worthless”.’</p>
<p>Nor does he believe that to be the case.  In fact Beckstrom believes that all .NET domain registrations are worth at least what the registrants pay for them, otherwise they would not renew.</p>
<p>Brad White<br />
Director – Media Affairs<br />
ICANN</p>
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