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		<title>By: Rashid Mahmood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rashid Mahmood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually makes perfect sense for Facebook to say they are not liable. They then don’t have liability, don’t have to spend countless financial and manpower resources to combat click fraud, countless advertiser inquiries over clicks….even down to five or ten click level, etc…. It’s actually a competitive strength if your competitor is struggling to remove those clicks and you don’t have to remove every last one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually makes perfect sense for Facebook to say they are not liable. They then don’t have liability, don’t have to spend countless financial and manpower resources to combat click fraud, countless advertiser inquiries over clicks….even down to five or ten click level, etc…. It’s actually a competitive strength if your competitor is struggling to remove those clicks and you don’t have to remove every last one.</p>
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		<title>By: Pet Health Insurance &#124; Health Insurance Online Information</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pet Health Insurance &#124; Health Insurance Online Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Health Insurance Options for Self-Employment &#124; Find A Health Insurance Agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Insurance Options for Self-Employment &#124; Find A Health Insurance Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Belmassio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belmassio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think click fraud is no big deal whatsoever.

If networks and sites just let the clicks pass through, advertisers will just adjust their bids down.  They are going nowhere b/c they can&#039;t find advertising this cheap anywhere else.....even with a bunch of fraud clicks involved.  Now, making the pubishers happy with less per click b/c of all the fraud passed though is another story, but for advertisers they can suck it up.

It actually makes perfect sense for Facebook to say they are not liable.  They then don&#039;t have liability, don&#039;t have to spend countless financial and manpower resources to combat click fraud, countless advertiser inquiries over clicks....even down to five or ten click level, etc....  It&#039;s actually a competitive strength if your competitor is struggling to remove those clicks and you don&#039;t have to remove every last one.

How many folks look at a TV, newpaper, or magazine ad.....or listen to a radio ad with absolutely NO intention of buying.  Should their viewer/subscriber/listener stats be deducted from the monthly or yearly circulation form stats which are passed around by ad agencies or publications themselves passing off those numbers as actual potential buyers?  Obviously some will never by buyers.......they might as well be bots.....you get the same result.  It&#039;s also the same with the Net.  

It&#039;s just that when you give an advertiser an inch they want to take a mile.  And, with the Net ppc model advertisers can argue, with TV or radio they really can&#039;t.  What&#039;s their alternative in the TV realm? Demand accountability? 

If MacAfee and Nortons can&#039;t get rid of all the viruses, what makes people think companies can get rid of all the fraud in ppc?  They can&#039;t, and never will be able to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think click fraud is no big deal whatsoever.</p>
<p>If networks and sites just let the clicks pass through, advertisers will just adjust their bids down.  They are going nowhere b/c they can&#8217;t find advertising this cheap anywhere else&#8230;..even with a bunch of fraud clicks involved.  Now, making the pubishers happy with less per click b/c of all the fraud passed though is another story, but for advertisers they can suck it up.</p>
<p>It actually makes perfect sense for Facebook to say they are not liable.  They then don&#8217;t have liability, don&#8217;t have to spend countless financial and manpower resources to combat click fraud, countless advertiser inquiries over clicks&#8230;.even down to five or ten click level, etc&#8230;.  It&#8217;s actually a competitive strength if your competitor is struggling to remove those clicks and you don&#8217;t have to remove every last one.</p>
<p>How many folks look at a TV, newpaper, or magazine ad&#8230;..or listen to a radio ad with absolutely NO intention of buying.  Should their viewer/subscriber/listener stats be deducted from the monthly or yearly circulation form stats which are passed around by ad agencies or publications themselves passing off those numbers as actual potential buyers?  Obviously some will never by buyers&#8230;&#8230;.they might as well be bots&#8230;..you get the same result.  It&#8217;s also the same with the Net.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that when you give an advertiser an inch they want to take a mile.  And, with the Net ppc model advertisers can argue, with TV or radio they really can&#8217;t.  What&#8217;s their alternative in the TV realm? Demand accountability? </p>
<p>If MacAfee and Nortons can&#8217;t get rid of all the viruses, what makes people think companies can get rid of all the fraud in ppc?  They can&#8217;t, and never will be able to.</p>
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		<title>By: PPC &#8211; ppc forum &#124; SEO Mixer Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>PPC &#8211; ppc forum &#124; SEO Mixer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Can A Company Selling PPC Ads Eliminate Liability For Click Fraud &#8230;3 hours ago by MHB &#160;Wow  this is scary! Policies like this will turn advertisers-away from PPC as this allows very low-quality leads to come through and at the same price as a targeted customer. With an increase in click-fraud by both publishers and &#8230; &#8211; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can A Company Selling PPC Ads Eliminate Liability For Click Fraud &#8230;3 hours ago by MHB &nbsp;Wow  this is scary! Policies like this will turn advertisers-away from PPC as this allows very low-quality leads to come through and at the same price as a targeted customer. With an increase in click-fraud by both publishers and &#8230; &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen Ritmeiejr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeroen Ritmeiejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just analysed a Google AdWords campaign and it appears that in our case the majority of clicks come from fraudulent websites as well.

See http://www.muhimbi.com/blog/2010/02/using-google-adwords-on-content.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just analysed a Google AdWords campaign and it appears that in our case the majority of clicks come from fraudulent websites as well.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.muhimbi.com/blog/2010/02/using-google-adwords-on-content.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muhimbi.com/blog/2010/02/using-google-adwords-on-content.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Earl Naegele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl Naegele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it amazing as these start ups become the next big thing, how their lack of concern for partners and users are NOT  a consideration in business decisions!

Facebook has a looming credibility and trust issue coming in the form of a tsunami.  I predict a class action or criminal lawsuit in the near future as a result of personal information breach.  They are pushing everyone to the edge of their &quot;social&quot; tolerance of such a company.

Seems they borrowed from the Google mantra &quot;Do no evil&quot; - NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amazing as these start ups become the next big thing, how their lack of concern for partners and users are NOT  a consideration in business decisions!</p>
<p>Facebook has a looming credibility and trust issue coming in the form of a tsunami.  I predict a class action or criminal lawsuit in the near future as a result of personal information breach.  They are pushing everyone to the edge of their &#8220;social&#8221; tolerance of such a company.</p>
<p>Seems they borrowed from the Google mantra &#8220;Do no evil&#8221; &#8211; NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - this is scary! Policies like this will turn advertisers-away from PPC as this allows very low-quality leads to come through and at the same price as a targeted customer. 

With an increase in click-fraud by both publishers and competing advertisers I would hope that companies like Facebook would take the high-road and attempt to create technologies to detect and prevent fraud rather than language in their contract to simply protect themselves.

For a company like Google this is more relevant than any and I do hope they don&#039;t follow in Facebook&#039;s footsteps here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; this is scary! Policies like this will turn advertisers-away from PPC as this allows very low-quality leads to come through and at the same price as a targeted customer. </p>
<p>With an increase in click-fraud by both publishers and competing advertisers I would hope that companies like Facebook would take the high-road and attempt to create technologies to detect and prevent fraud rather than language in their contract to simply protect themselves.</p>
<p>For a company like Google this is more relevant than any and I do hope they don&#8217;t follow in Facebook&#8217;s footsteps here.</p>
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