Comments on: The Government Goes To Registrars To Asking Them To “Teminate” Domain Registrations http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:24:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The Government Goes To Registrars To Asking Them To “Teminate … | ArtykułyNet http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22637 The Government Goes To Registrars To Asking Them To “Teminate … | ArtykułyNet Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:21:23 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22637 [...] more here: The Government Goes To Registrars To Asking Them To “Teminate … Kontynuuj czytanie » || Napisał dnia: 21.11.09. || Tagi:activities-may, even-through, fda, [...] [...] more here: The Government Goes To Registrars To Asking Them To “Teminate … Kontynuuj czytanie » || Napisał dnia: 21.11.09. || Tagi:activities-may, even-through, fda, [...]

]]> By: Jessica http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22635 Jessica Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:07:58 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22635 Hmmm, somehow I am not against the move of the government. Just doing their job to protect their people. Lesson: Don't run illegal activities online or offline, in the US or not. No one can escape the law. :) Hmmm, somehow I am not against the move of the government.

Just doing their job to protect their people.

Lesson: Don’t run illegal activities online or offline, in the US or not.

No one can escape the law. :)

]]> By: pitbullstew http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22625 pitbullstew Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:41:40 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22625 ahem...you have a problem with gvt doing what? you folks in the inter net seem to really think there is no laws that regulate anything you do what so ever is there? Well consider the this? The FDA, has the authroity to lock some up for violation of the nations laws with respect to the creation, sale, and distribution of pharma, and the pharma industry is very interested in seeing to it that every one else abides by the same rules the industry is held to, perhaps it is high time some of you get used to the notion the FED is on to your cohorts and are quite serious about shutting them down and using the full extent of the law to do it. ahem…you have a problem with gvt doing what?
you folks in the inter net seem to really think there is no laws that regulate anything you do what so ever is there?
Well consider the this?
The FDA, has the authroity to lock some up for violation of the nations laws with respect to the creation, sale, and distribution of pharma, and the pharma industry is very interested in seeing to it that every one else abides by the same rules the industry is held to, perhaps it is high time some of you get used to the notion the FED is on to your cohorts and are quite serious about shutting them down and using the full extent of the law to do it.

]]> By: Gazzip http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22618 Gazzip Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:12:00 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22618 While I don't usually like alot of the decisions governments often make I think this is the fasted and most effective way of dealing with this particular problem. The Federal Drug Administration are there on the behalf of the people to make sure any medication sold in America meets a certain quality and standard. Some of these dodgy scammers fill their products with all sorts of crap not fit for human consumption in pursuit of the mighty dollar. They are messing with peoples health and lives, there's a time for talking and there's a time for doing, I think the governments should just get on and do whatever it takes to take them out and don't spare the horses ! While I don’t usually like alot of the decisions governments often make I think this is the fasted and most effective way of dealing with this particular problem.

The Federal Drug Administration are there on the behalf of the people to make sure any medication sold in America meets a certain quality and standard.

Some of these dodgy scammers fill their products with all sorts of crap not fit for human consumption in pursuit of the mighty dollar.

They are messing with peoples health and lives, there’s a time for talking and there’s a time for doing, I think the governments should just get on and do whatever it takes to take them out and don’t spare the horses !

]]> By: Jay http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22616 Jay Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:12:21 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22616 "I know people keep saying these bodies can go to directly to the registry, but the case of the Kentucky domain seizure and this case they have not, they have gone just to the registrars." Which was nice because Fabulous told them to pound dirt, I'm not sure that everyone will just go the the registrars however and if they don't just go the registrar then I think moving all your domains outside the US is a waste then, generally I think they can push legal issues in your city or the registrars city, I'm in Chicago so I would rather fly to Arizona for a Go Daddy issue then to fly to Australia for a Fabulous court case, I would recommend a few registrars for people of those countries but if your in the US I would say be cautious of sticking everything out of the US unless you have a bunch of frequent flyer miles saved up, could also be used as a strategy to file the cases in the registrars country to bleed the american domainer out of cash, as much as I prefer Fabulous I'll be keeping my domains in my own country so I don't need a travel loan to defend them. “I know people keep saying these bodies can go to directly to the registry, but the case of the Kentucky domain seizure and this case they have not, they have gone just to the registrars.”

Which was nice because Fabulous told them to pound dirt, I’m not sure that everyone will just go the the registrars however and if they don’t just go the registrar then I think moving all your domains outside the US is a waste then, generally I think they can push legal issues in your city or the registrars city, I’m in Chicago so I would rather fly to Arizona for a Go Daddy issue then to fly to Australia for a Fabulous court case, I would recommend a few registrars for people of those countries but if your in the US I would say be cautious of sticking everything out of the US unless you have a bunch of frequent flyer miles saved up, could also be used as a strategy to file the cases in the registrars country to bleed the american domainer out of cash, as much as I prefer Fabulous I’ll be keeping my domains in my own country so I don’t need a travel loan to defend them.

]]> By: JS http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22615 JS Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:36:59 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22615 Re: my previous post, the good stuff is at page 14 and al. of the explanatory notes. As it was rightly pointed out by a Namepros member, the most confusing part is that the UK Gov will feel justified to intervene in the business of registrars that permit "unfair practices" such as cybersquatting and drop-catching. You heard right, drop-catching. (section 87 of the notes) Re: my previous post,

the good stuff is at page 14 and al. of the explanatory notes. As it was rightly pointed out by a Namepros member, the most confusing part is that the UK Gov will feel justified to intervene in the business of registrars that permit “unfair practices” such as cybersquatting and drop-catching. You heard right, drop-catching. (section 87 of the notes)

]]> By: JS http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22614 JS Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:24:01 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22614 Going offshore ? maybe. But I wouldn't put all my eggs in the same basket. Look at what's happening in the UK : http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2009-10/digitaleconomy/documents.html Going offshore ? maybe. But I wouldn’t put all my eggs in the same basket.

Look at what’s happening in the UK : http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2009-10/digitaleconomy/documents.html

]]> By: M. Menius http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22612 M. Menius Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:25:30 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22612 Mike, I recall something similar with domain travel sites being threatened due to their affiliation with travel services to Cuba. U.S. government policy seems to supercede & override certain gray areas, commerce restrictions, etc. With the medication issue above, this has been on the U.S. radar for quite a number of years. I see the need to police it too. However, I agree with you that some formal investigation (process) should be utilized before taking down a site and/or issuing letters to registrars. For all the legitimate reputable business sites online, there are probably twice as many scam sites. This is hard to monitor I presume. Mike, I recall something similar with domain travel sites being threatened due to their affiliation with travel services to Cuba. U.S. government policy seems to supercede & override certain gray areas, commerce restrictions, etc.

With the medication issue above, this has been on the U.S. radar for quite a number of years. I see the need to police it too. However, I agree with you that some formal investigation (process) should be utilized before taking down a site and/or issuing letters to registrars.

For all the legitimate reputable business sites online, there are probably twice as many scam sites. This is hard to monitor I presume.

]]> By: MHB http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22610 MHB Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:58:52 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22610 Domain I know people keep saying these bodies can go to directly to the registry, but the case of the Kentucky domain seizure and this case they have not, they have gone just to the registrars Domain

I know people keep saying these bodies can go to directly to the registry, but the case of the Kentucky domain seizure and this case they have not, they have gone just to the registrars

]]> By: Domain Investor http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/21/the-government-goes-to-registrars-to-asking-them-to-teminate-domain-registrations/comment-page-1/#comment-22609 Domain Investor Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:38:05 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=6259#comment-22609 Michael, Your points are valid. Guilty to proven innocent. Even though the domains might be in offshore registrars that does not stop the U.S. govt agencies from going to Verisign, Affilas, PIR, or Neustar and ask them to freeze the domains. They might do it to prevent a lawsuit. They might figure it is better to keep the resident gov't happy than a couple domainers. Will they eventually tell Google and Yahoo to elliminate your ppc or adsense acct? Will they eventually tell Mastercard, Visa, Discover and AMEX to close your merchant acct? Will they instruct Paypal to freeze your acct? Once, they know that some will bend to the gov't demands they got you. Michael,

Your points are valid.
Guilty to proven innocent.

Even though the domains might be in offshore registrars that does not stop the U.S. govt agencies from going to Verisign, Affilas, PIR, or Neustar and ask them to freeze the domains. They might do it to prevent a lawsuit. They might figure it is better to keep the resident gov’t happy than a couple domainers.

Will they eventually tell Google and Yahoo to elliminate your ppc or adsense acct?
Will they eventually tell Mastercard, Visa, Discover and AMEX to close your merchant acct?
Will they instruct Paypal to freeze your acct?

Once, they know that some will bend to the gov’t demands they got you.

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