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	<title>Comments on: Rupert Murdock: You&#8217;re Going To Pay</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17660</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post MHB: 
Will someone please explain to me how the internet is &quot;free&quot; if I&#039;m paying a $50 monthly broadband bill and the ISPs are making a killing? They love it when people post about &quot;free content&quot; on the web and they go under the radar aren&#039;t even mentioned.

Exhibit A: ESPN.com gets paid nothing from Comcast, but ESPN TV gets paid a subsidy from Comcast. That&#039;s where the money is.

http://briancarr.net/?p=20

Cheers, bcarr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post MHB:<br />
Will someone please explain to me how the internet is &#8220;free&#8221; if I&#8217;m paying a $50 monthly broadband bill and the ISPs are making a killing? They love it when people post about &#8220;free content&#8221; on the web and they go under the radar aren&#8217;t even mentioned.</p>
<p>Exhibit A: ESPN.com gets paid nothing from Comcast, but ESPN TV gets paid a subsidy from Comcast. That&#8217;s where the money is.</p>
<p><a href="http://briancarr.net/?p=20" rel="nofollow">http://briancarr.net/?p=20</a></p>
<p>Cheers, bcarr</p>
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		<title>By: DotWTF.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17652</link>
		<dc:creator>DotWTF.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Steven</description>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17648</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking at the online news business model for a while. Everyone knows its broken but why and how is  just as important to constructing ways to fix it and start making money again.

I am located in Houston and recently read the houston chronicle (not online) and 90% or more of the stories in the paper were articles from AP and Reuters. The newspapers have cut real journalism out for the most part because that costs real money.

However, why should i pay for AP news via the houston chronicle when i can get it online for free from 100&#039;s of outlets. If those outlets were charged based on the eyeball, it would level the playing field and make all news &quot;cost the same&quot; regardless of the format you read or see it.

This way, local newspapers have a &quot;chance&quot; to survive in print or online. However, the real long term loser will be AP and Reuters 10 years from now because they will only have a small number of paying subscribers for their news and the trend will repeat itself because they can not afford their journalists and the quality and quantity of reports will go down further.

Content is King and if Murdoch thinks his brands are stong enough to support charging for a fee, without a HUGE quality uptick  of real journalism, He is a fool! The only thing  that seperates his properties from the 100&#039;s of others  is the brand. In the day of the internet, the &quot;brand&quot; means  little when it is so easy to find the same just as easy for less.

There might be 10 newspapers in America that delivers real value and could get away with charging a fee. 

Think of the unique characteristics of ESPN Magazine and WSJ...

What other Newspaper / Magazine properties have similiar qualities?

Those are the ones i would attempt to monetize in PPV. All the rest are dead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at the online news business model for a while. Everyone knows its broken but why and how is  just as important to constructing ways to fix it and start making money again.</p>
<p>I am located in Houston and recently read the houston chronicle (not online) and 90% or more of the stories in the paper were articles from AP and Reuters. The newspapers have cut real journalism out for the most part because that costs real money.</p>
<p>However, why should i pay for AP news via the houston chronicle when i can get it online for free from 100&#8242;s of outlets. If those outlets were charged based on the eyeball, it would level the playing field and make all news &#8220;cost the same&#8221; regardless of the format you read or see it.</p>
<p>This way, local newspapers have a &#8220;chance&#8221; to survive in print or online. However, the real long term loser will be AP and Reuters 10 years from now because they will only have a small number of paying subscribers for their news and the trend will repeat itself because they can not afford their journalists and the quality and quantity of reports will go down further.</p>
<p>Content is King and if Murdoch thinks his brands are stong enough to support charging for a fee, without a HUGE quality uptick  of real journalism, He is a fool! The only thing  that seperates his properties from the 100&#8242;s of others  is the brand. In the day of the internet, the &#8220;brand&#8221; means  little when it is so easy to find the same just as easy for less.</p>
<p>There might be 10 newspapers in America that delivers real value and could get away with charging a fee. </p>
<p>Think of the unique characteristics of ESPN Magazine and WSJ&#8230;</p>
<p>What other Newspaper / Magazine properties have similiar qualities?</p>
<p>Those are the ones i would attempt to monetize in PPV. All the rest are dead!</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17646</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dewey

Plenty of media outlets make money giving their product away, Television and  radio, to just name 2.

Some people pay for HBO because they have special content but free TV networks have a far greater audience and profit margin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dewey</p>
<p>Plenty of media outlets make money giving their product away, Television and  radio, to just name 2.</p>
<p>Some people pay for HBO because they have special content but free TV networks have a far greater audience and profit margin</p>
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		<title>By: Dewey</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17643</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What business model profits by giving away the product?  For twenty years I&#039;ve paid to have the paper delivered to my house.   I also scour the web for news using Google and other search engines for free.  Now we see major instiutions like the Seattle PI going under because they&#039;ve been giving away their content.  This makes no sense at all.  If these news organizations thought that website advertising would save them they are finding out that very few of us bother to look at let alone click on those ads.  You know it is a failing business model when you hear stories of the local TV station managers sitting and clicking through their website to generate &quot;hits&quot;.  Can I count on my local paper to give me all the news I want for a fee?  Maybe, but I think that there will be news for a fee in the future</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What business model profits by giving away the product?  For twenty years I&#8217;ve paid to have the paper delivered to my house.   I also scour the web for news using Google and other search engines for free.  Now we see major instiutions like the Seattle PI going under because they&#8217;ve been giving away their content.  This makes no sense at all.  If these news organizations thought that website advertising would save them they are finding out that very few of us bother to look at let alone click on those ads.  You know it is a failing business model when you hear stories of the local TV station managers sitting and clicking through their website to generate &#8220;hits&#8221;.  Can I count on my local paper to give me all the news I want for a fee?  Maybe, but I think that there will be news for a fee in the future</p>
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		<title>By: Lee H.</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17618</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Murdoch must be really concerned with his investments not doing nearly as well as expected. With people fleeting from MySpace I guess this is just a way to make up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Murdoch must be really concerned with his investments not doing nearly as well as expected. With people fleeting from MySpace I guess this is just a way to make up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: DotWTF.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17603</link>
		<dc:creator>DotWTF.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line, the internet has shown that you can compete with the paid services and make money, the guy from plentyoffish.com proved that.  His whole goal was to go after something that everyone charged for and do it for free.  In the last article done on him in INC magazine he talked about how he works one hour a day and makes $5million a year. 

As people like Ron Jackson have pointed out the quality of journalism has gone way down, we see that in the non fact checking domain articles that are done by the big media companies. 

Do I like Michael ? Yeah ? Would I ever pay to read any domain blog ? Never, why no disrespect for the most part you can get the same news elsewhere except for the authors opinion.  Perfect example I already read this story before Michael posted it, and there was talk about this two weeks ago at a big media conference where Barry Diller said the same thing and we talked about it on Namepros.  

With Facebook,Twitter, and all the other social media out there along with highly competent blogs that will never charge, it seems to me Mr.Murdoch feels like he has to try something.  He will try and because a few will pay they will call it a success, at least when they talk to their shareholders, but most will know this is not going to work for too many.  People don&#039;t want to pay for music where at least they think the artists have talent, and they are going to pay for a profession where most people feel there is no talent ? I do not think so but that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line, the internet has shown that you can compete with the paid services and make money, the guy from plentyoffish.com proved that.  His whole goal was to go after something that everyone charged for and do it for free.  In the last article done on him in INC magazine he talked about how he works one hour a day and makes $5million a year. </p>
<p>As people like Ron Jackson have pointed out the quality of journalism has gone way down, we see that in the non fact checking domain articles that are done by the big media companies. </p>
<p>Do I like Michael ? Yeah ? Would I ever pay to read any domain blog ? Never, why no disrespect for the most part you can get the same news elsewhere except for the authors opinion.  Perfect example I already read this story before Michael posted it, and there was talk about this two weeks ago at a big media conference where Barry Diller said the same thing and we talked about it on Namepros.  </p>
<p>With Facebook,Twitter, and all the other social media out there along with highly competent blogs that will never charge, it seems to me Mr.Murdoch feels like he has to try something.  He will try and because a few will pay they will call it a success, at least when they talk to their shareholders, but most will know this is not going to work for too many.  People don&#8217;t want to pay for music where at least they think the artists have talent, and they are going to pay for a profession where most people feel there is no talent ? I do not think so but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17590</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People will find relevant news elsewhere. Advertisers should pay; always. Good content will attract eyeballs and advertisers will be happy to pay a site ad dollars based on those eyeballs. Websites can actually prove traffic, newspapers? not really. We might have to pay a bit more for kindling for starting fires in our fireplaces or woodstoves though. :) bye bye Mr. M.
Best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People will find relevant news elsewhere. Advertisers should pay; always. Good content will attract eyeballs and advertisers will be happy to pay a site ad dollars based on those eyeballs. Websites can actually prove traffic, newspapers? not really. We might have to pay a bit more for kindling for starting fires in our fireplaces or woodstoves though. <img src='http://www.thedomains.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  bye bye Mr. M.<br />
Best.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/08/07/rupert-murdock-youre-going-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-17589</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mainstream news are totally worthless anyway, waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainstream news are totally worthless anyway, waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it makes sense to charge both. If your only revenue comes from advertisers who will you be ultimately loyal to in the end? Look what happened to television and old media. Imagine your online advertisers start to care about what you talk about on your site? This could extend way pass just profanity. This is far away from the domain industry but what if Sedo says they are going to take away their big ad spend on your site if you promote any other parking company. Again, this is a long term problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it makes sense to charge both. If your only revenue comes from advertisers who will you be ultimately loyal to in the end? Look what happened to television and old media. Imagine your online advertisers start to care about what you talk about on your site? This could extend way pass just profanity. This is far away from the domain industry but what if Sedo says they are going to take away their big ad spend on your site if you promote any other parking company. Again, this is a long term problem.</p>
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