Comments on: New Way To Catch Dropping Domains For Only $18.95 A Pop http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:38:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tony http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16583 Tony Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:49:12 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16583 @Josh "While GoDaddy does indeed kick off an auction if multiple folks backorder a domain..." ----------------------------- MHB and JZ already have stated correctly that Godaddy does NOT allow more than one backorder per domain. @Josh

“While GoDaddy does indeed kick off an auction if multiple folks backorder a domain…”

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MHB and JZ already have stated correctly that Godaddy does NOT allow more than one backorder per domain.

]]> By: Kellie http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16582 Kellie Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:21 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16582 D - That is simply not true. In any given month the majority of names that flow from us through Snapnames sell to a single bidder. It's a nine to one ratio of single to multi-bidder auctions. See my earlier comments regarding what some of our client portfolio owners do. Josh - thanks for more info, and please feel free to email me any time. I wasn't aware that Godaddy had a cheaper version of their backorder service. I'll have to keep that in mind as we move forward with the product. Michael - Today we have three tags. D – That is simply not true. In any given month the majority of names that flow from us through Snapnames sell to a single bidder. It’s a nine to one ratio of single to multi-bidder auctions. See my earlier comments regarding what some of our client portfolio owners do.

Josh – thanks for more info, and please feel free to email me any time. I wasn’t aware that Godaddy had a cheaper version of their backorder service. I’ll have to keep that in mind as we move forward with the product.

Michael – Today we have three tags.

]]> By: MHB http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16578 MHB Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:39:05 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16578 Kellie How many registrar tags are you using for this project, just Name.com or do you have others? Kellie

How many registrar tags are you using for this project, just Name.com or do you have others?

]]> By: D http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16575 D Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:37:19 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16575 "What do you want.. .an auction with one bidder?" Are you that "smart" ? In Snapnames if only one person backorders it gets the person who backordered it. All registrars except name.com “What do you want.. .an auction with one bidder?”

Are you that “smart” ? In Snapnames if only one person backorders it gets the person who backordered it. All registrars except name.com

]]> By: Josh P http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16571 Josh P Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:02:23 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16571 I should add - Name.com might help provide an additional chance to capture a domain by throwing another registrar at it. But....it still doesn't seem logical to pay $8.99 upfront for 10 registrars and then an additional $18.99 for just 1 additional registrar. I should add – Name.com might help provide an additional chance to capture a domain by throwing another registrar at it. But….it still doesn’t seem logical to pay $8.99 upfront for 10 registrars and then an additional $18.99 for just 1 additional registrar.

]]> By: Josh P http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16570 Josh P Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:58:19 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16570 If Name.com (1) changed their backorder model so that customers were only charged upon the backordered domain being successfully capture -- not upfront -- and (2) they reduced their backorder prices significantly (to $10/domain or less), I might consider using them. Until then, I will stick with GoDaddy's backorder system for middle-tier domains as it provides dramatically better bang for the buck. Not only can I backorder domains there for $8.99 apiece (Kelly - I'll contact you privately if you'd like to know how to do this), but they harness ten times as many registrars to attempt to capture dropping domains as Name.com does, hence their chances of successful capture are at least 10-20% higher than Name.com's for intelligently-selected backorders. While GoDaddy does indeed kick off an auction if multiple folks backorder a domain, the majority of liquid enduser-type domains I've backordered on GoDaddy lately (examples: Gambling / Intervention / com, Document / Compliance / com, Designer / Mugs / com ... tons more) have not gone to auction, and I'm sure most other drop-catching domainers would report the same. The traffic/backlink stats are nice a idea, but this information can be obtained in bulk for free through several different sources. I would be happy to work with you to help improve your service as I am well-connected with the drop-catching community. Wishing you the best! Josh If Name.com (1) changed their backorder model so that customers were only charged upon the backordered domain being successfully capture — not upfront — and (2) they reduced their backorder prices significantly (to $10/domain or less), I might consider using them. Until then, I will stick with GoDaddy’s backorder system for middle-tier domains as it provides dramatically better bang for the buck. Not only can I backorder domains there for $8.99 apiece (Kelly – I’ll contact you privately if you’d like to know how to do this), but they harness ten times as many registrars to attempt to capture dropping domains as Name.com does, hence their chances of successful capture are at least 10-20% higher than Name.com’s for intelligently-selected backorders.

While GoDaddy does indeed kick off an auction if multiple folks backorder a domain, the majority of liquid enduser-type domains I’ve backordered on GoDaddy lately (examples: Gambling / Intervention / com, Document / Compliance / com, Designer / Mugs / com … tons more) have not gone to auction, and I’m sure most other drop-catching domainers would report the same.

The traffic/backlink stats are nice a idea, but this information can be obtained in bulk for free through several different sources.

I would be happy to work with you to help improve your service as I am well-connected with the drop-catching community.

Wishing you the best!
Josh

]]> By: cartoonz http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16565 cartoonz Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:44:05 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16565 "The others I have theory that if you see only one person backordered you do not send it into auction." What do you want.. .an auction with one bidder? “The others I have theory that if you see only one person backordered you do not send it into auction.”

What do you want.. .an auction with one bidder?

]]> By: D http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16562 D Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:50:29 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16562 ^SOME DOMAINS Minority The others I have theory that if you see only one person backordered you do not send it into auction. ^SOME DOMAINS
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The others I have theory that if you see only one person backordered you do not send it into auction.

]]> By: Kellie http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16561 Kellie Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:15:49 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16561 And D - you already state that domains you've won aren't updated to your preference - which I believe is proof that domains so actually go to auction. And D – you already state that domains you’ve won aren’t updated to your preference – which I believe is proof that domains so actually go to auction.

]]> By: Kellie http://www.thedomains.com/2009/07/14/new-way-to-catch-dropping-domains-for-1895-a-pop/comment-page-1/#comment-16560 Kellie Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:11:39 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=4294#comment-16560 D - Thanks for sharing. I'd love to know who I'm addressing so please do consider speaking with me directly by dropping me an email at kellie@name.com 1. Name.com - the company - has not tasted. And I categorically deny Name.com has ever used customer searches for *any* such purpose. If you can provide any proof of this accusation I would like to see it. Additionally, we were one of the first registrars to inform our customers that no refunds would be provided for deleted names, etc. - long before any sort of fees or sanctions went into effect. 2. Many registrars have this happen. I spoke to one of our best clients just last week about his habit of letting domains expire only to renew them at the last minute. He's far from the only one. We have another customer with more than 40k domains who does this same exact thing. Apparently it's a common tactic for soliciting domain offers from people who watch expiring names and are hoping to snap them up themselves. 3. If this is a long standing issue it's news to me. During the past month we've been in contact with Snapnames because names have not being inserted properly into accounts. We've spent a good deal of time and effort to identify the issue and it appears to be a Snapnames issue. We *believe* it's been rectified. We regret that it was a series of customers who had to alert us to this issue. If what you are speaking of is a longer standing issue please do send me an email so I can investigate. D – Thanks for sharing. I’d love to know who I’m addressing so please do consider speaking with me directly by dropping me an email at kellie@name.com

1. Name.com – the company – has not tasted. And I categorically deny Name.com has ever used customer searches for *any* such purpose. If you can provide any proof of this accusation I would like to see it. Additionally, we were one of the first registrars to inform our customers that no refunds would be provided for deleted names, etc. – long before any sort of fees or sanctions went into effect.

2. Many registrars have this happen. I spoke to one of our best clients just last week about his habit of letting domains expire only to renew them at the last minute. He’s far from the only one. We have another customer with more than 40k domains who does this same exact thing. Apparently it’s a common tactic for soliciting domain offers from people who watch expiring names and are hoping to snap them up themselves.

3. If this is a long standing issue it’s news to me. During the past month we’ve been in contact with Snapnames because names have not being inserted properly into accounts. We’ve spent a good deal of time and effort to identify the issue and it appears to be a Snapnames issue. We *believe* it’s been rectified. We regret that it was a series of customers who had to alert us to this issue. If what you are speaking of is a longer standing issue please do send me an email so I can investigate.

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