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	<title>Comments on: NameJet.com Announces New DeadBeat Bidder &amp; Re-Auction Policy: Is It Enough?</title>
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		<title>By: auctions</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15771</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It disturbs me greatly that so many good names are bid on by shill bidders, in an attempt to destroy the process for the good buyers in the auctions. I think this is incredibly important and some kind of bidder checks have long been overdue. Lately I have noticed more and more bidders using randomly generated names - a sure sign of bad behavior. It will be nice to see those losers hit the pavement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It disturbs me greatly that so many good names are bid on by shill bidders, in an attempt to destroy the process for the good buyers in the auctions. I think this is incredibly important and some kind of bidder checks have long been overdue. Lately I have noticed more and more bidders using randomly generated names &#8211; a sure sign of bad behavior. It will be nice to see those losers hit the pavement.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve M

I agree with you.

I urged them to adopt a fee of $100 or 5% of the defaulting bidding price, whichever is higher, but they rejected that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve M</p>
<p>I agree with you.</p>
<p>I urged them to adopt a fee of $100 or 5% of the defaulting bidding price, whichever is higher, but they rejected that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15685</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So overall a good move; though the reauction methodology remains problematic for various bidders.

However, this part of their TOS: &quot;... the amount of which shall be determined by NameJet. &quot; would prove to be not legally enforceable should anyone challenge it in court.

You can&#039;t bind someone to pay whatever you unilaterally decide should be their penalty ... after they&#039;ve committed the &quot;infraction.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So overall a good move; though the reauction methodology remains problematic for various bidders.</p>
<p>However, this part of their TOS: &#8220;&#8230; the amount of which shall be determined by NameJet. &#8221; would prove to be not legally enforceable should anyone challenge it in court.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t bind someone to pay whatever you unilaterally decide should be their penalty &#8230; after they&#8217;ve committed the &#8220;infraction.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15669</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D

You always have the choice to opt out of the re-auction, however if you were willing to pay $3K for a domain, then you still should be willing to pay it a week later.

The old system, started the same way, with the highest bid, without regard to the defaulting bidder, the only difference is that the re-auciton was public opened to a ton of new bidders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D</p>
<p>You always have the choice to opt out of the re-auction, however if you were willing to pay $3K for a domain, then you still should be willing to pay it a week later.</p>
<p>The old system, started the same way, with the highest bid, without regard to the defaulting bidder, the only difference is that the re-auciton was public opened to a ton of new bidders</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15668</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^No it&#039;s NOT fair because if I was the 2nd highest bidder everyone KNOWS what my proxybid is and will bump me to the max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^No it&#8217;s NOT fair because if I was the 2nd highest bidder everyone KNOWS what my proxybid is and will bump me to the max</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15667</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several ways the re-auction process could work.

And none of them would make everyone happy.

I think the new approach which is to restart the auction with the participants from the orginal auction starting with the highest bid without regard to the defaulting bidders, bids is a fair approach and an improvement over what we have had up to now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several ways the re-auction process could work.</p>
<p>And none of them would make everyone happy.</p>
<p>I think the new approach which is to restart the auction with the participants from the orginal auction starting with the highest bid without regard to the defaulting bidders, bids is a fair approach and an improvement over what we have had up to now.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15665</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^That&#039;s nonsense - for some really great domain I would do another account and drvien it to crazy hight immediately after auciton starts, so nobody would bid.
Then it would be
1. Fake account $200K
2.  My honest account $199K
3. Some bidder $1K
Say the domain has value $20K but I would get it for $1100 with your &quot;system&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^That&#8217;s nonsense &#8211; for some really great domain I would do another account and drvien it to crazy hight immediately after auciton starts, so nobody would bid.<br />
Then it would be<br />
1. Fake account $200K<br />
2.  My honest account $199K<br />
3. Some bidder $1K<br />
Say the domain has value $20K but I would get it for $1100 with your &#8220;system&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should do it the Godaddy way instead of re-auctions which I believe MHB advocated before also.

Take out all bids from the non-payor and the next highest bidder should be given a chance to buy the domain.  If that person fails to pay, then re-auction.

What does Godaddy do when the next highest bidder doesn&#039;t want to pay?  Offer the name to the next to the next at their winning bid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should do it the Godaddy way instead of re-auctions which I believe MHB advocated before also.</p>
<p>Take out all bids from the non-payor and the next highest bidder should be given a chance to buy the domain.  If that person fails to pay, then re-auction.</p>
<p>What does Godaddy do when the next highest bidder doesn&#8217;t want to pay?  Offer the name to the next to the next at their winning bid?</p>
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		<title>By: Domain Investor</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15663</link>
		<dc:creator>Domain Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would they want to re-start at $ 69.??
They make as much or more re-starting from the second place bid.

As it has been mentioned many times, if the defaulting bidder wasn&#039;t in the auction where would the price end?

I agree.  It should re-start at $ 69.  
I have noticed a number of times where they were forced to re-start at $ 69.  But, only the &quot;pro&#039;s&quot; know how to continously make Namejet lower the bids.  

Otherwise, they give you the party line - &quot;if you want your bid removed, you will be totally removed from bidding&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would they want to re-start at $ 69.??<br />
They make as much or more re-starting from the second place bid.</p>
<p>As it has been mentioned many times, if the defaulting bidder wasn&#8217;t in the auction where would the price end?</p>
<p>I agree.  It should re-start at $ 69.<br />
I have noticed a number of times where they were forced to re-start at $ 69.  But, only the &#8220;pro&#8217;s&#8221; know how to continously make Namejet lower the bids.  </p>
<p>Otherwise, they give you the party line &#8211; &#8220;if you want your bid removed, you will be totally removed from bidding&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/25/namejetcom-toughens-its-dead-beat-bidder-policy-re-auction-policy-is-it-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-15662</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one more thing that disturbs me: in the reauction they use my highest bid without asking. They should start again from 69 UNLESS someone opt-in into program &quot;always use my highest bid in re-auction&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one more thing that disturbs me: in the reauction they use my highest bid without asking. They should start again from 69 UNLESS someone opt-in into program &#8220;always use my highest bid in re-auction&#8221;.</p>
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