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	<title>Comments on: ICANN Hands All Geo gTLD Extensions Over To Governments &amp; That&#8217;s Just The Start Of The Problems</title>
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		<title>By: 2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years &#124; dot sauce &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years &#124; dot sauce &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TheDomains is discussing issues concerning ICANN&#8217;s latest confusing policy on gTLD (Geographic domain names such as .NYC, .Paris, .Berlin) and the serious implications this might have on the domain industry. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Clayton Narcis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Narcis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting insight to what have been discussed here and i have to agree to some of the points mention here.

Rob,
I believe .aero and .museum requires certification and verification for that entity to be from the specific industry hence the low number of domain names. No surprise here. Even .travel suffers the same fate. Such a fantastic extension being tied down.

As for how successful, geo domain maybe, we could look at .asia for example. They&#039;re doing pretty well and recently i&#039;ve been seeing advertisements (billboard,tvc,etc) that includes .asia extension.

It&#039;s just a matter of time before they catch up. I believe some of the city TLDs and geo TLDs will be successful too but all in good time if they get there in the first place.

Domainer,
Well ppl might just stop typing in domain name one day. Then that would be serious trouble for all of us. The only reason being is, a lot of ppl would rely on search engine to get the right website based on keywords for us today. For example in Japan, this is also largely caused by language issue. A lot of the Japan internet users rely on Yahoo search engine to get to site. 

I&#039;m sure this is case for most countries that doesn&#039;t speak English.

So if the Internet space gets really messy because there are 150 gTLDs around, expect more people to visit sites via search engine results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting insight to what have been discussed here and i have to agree to some of the points mention here.</p>
<p>Rob,<br />
I believe .aero and .museum requires certification and verification for that entity to be from the specific industry hence the low number of domain names. No surprise here. Even .travel suffers the same fate. Such a fantastic extension being tied down.</p>
<p>As for how successful, geo domain maybe, we could look at .asia for example. They&#8217;re doing pretty well and recently i&#8217;ve been seeing advertisements (billboard,tvc,etc) that includes .asia extension.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a matter of time before they catch up. I believe some of the city TLDs and geo TLDs will be successful too but all in good time if they get there in the first place.</p>
<p>Domainer,<br />
Well ppl might just stop typing in domain name one day. Then that would be serious trouble for all of us. The only reason being is, a lot of ppl would rely on search engine to get the right website based on keywords for us today. For example in Japan, this is also largely caused by language issue. A lot of the Japan internet users rely on Yahoo search engine to get to site. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this is case for most countries that doesn&#8217;t speak English.</p>
<p>So if the Internet space gets really messy because there are 150 gTLDs around, expect more people to visit sites via search engine results.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/02/22/icann-hands-all-geo-gtld-extensions-over-to-governments-thats-just-the-start-of-the-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-11884</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob

&quot;&quot;So, I’m not sure any of this discussion is worth our concern.&quot;&quot;

Here&#039;s why it is.

Your focusing on the end game, how successful will any of these extension be once they are released.

That&#039;s a whole different issue and discussion.

Why you need to stay on top of this process and comment to ICANN on it, is that all ICANN rules become a precedent for future rules and contracts including all existing TLD&#039;s.

So whatever ICANN passes rules wise for the crappiest new extension, are going to apply now or down the line to your best .com.

Removal of price cap will be deadly.

Giving government control over all geo domains, and broadening the definition what they consider to be a geo domain is a bad precedent to allow.

Allowing CADNA to use the new gTLD&#039;s as a platform to add trademark laws without challenge, is going to put many existing domains in jeopardy.

A lot of stuff going on here and it will effect your existing domains.

How any of these extensions will do once there out, who cares right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;So, I’m not sure any of this discussion is worth our concern.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why it is.</p>
<p>Your focusing on the end game, how successful will any of these extension be once they are released.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a whole different issue and discussion.</p>
<p>Why you need to stay on top of this process and comment to ICANN on it, is that all ICANN rules become a precedent for future rules and contracts including all existing TLD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So whatever ICANN passes rules wise for the crappiest new extension, are going to apply now or down the line to your best .com.</p>
<p>Removal of price cap will be deadly.</p>
<p>Giving government control over all geo domains, and broadening the definition what they consider to be a geo domain is a bad precedent to allow.</p>
<p>Allowing CADNA to use the new gTLD&#8217;s as a platform to add trademark laws without challenge, is going to put many existing domains in jeopardy.</p>
<p>A lot of stuff going on here and it will effect your existing domains.</p>
<p>How any of these extensions will do once there out, who cares right now.</p>
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		<title>By: 2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years&#160;&#124;&#160;DailyHeadlines.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years&#160;&#124;&#160;DailyHeadlines.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TheDomains is discussing issues concerning ICANN&#8217;s latest confusing policy on gTLD (Geographic domain names such as .NYC, .Paris, .Berlin) and the serious implications this might have on the domain industry. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/02/22/icann-hands-all-geo-gtld-extensions-over-to-governments-thats-just-the-start-of-the-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-11882</link>
		<dc:creator>2009 ccTLD Buzz! Plus: The .MX Domain Extension Making a Comeback After 20 Years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TheDomains is discussing issues concerning ICANN&#8217;s latest confusing policy on gTLD (Geographic domain names such as .NYC, .Paris, .Berlin) and the serious implications this might have on the domain industry. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Sequin</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/02/22/icann-hands-all-geo-gtld-extensions-over-to-governments-thats-just-the-start-of-the-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-11881</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: &quot;Keep an eye out for any generic word TLD submissions. If ICANN starts approving anything like dotBanks, dotLawyers or dotDoctors this thing is a farce.&quot;

It&#039;s already a farce.

Don&#039;t forget there is already .aero and .museum that have already been approved years ago. 

How many of those have you seen developed?

.nyc and other &quot;vanity domains&quot; (as you say) will just go on the junk pile. 

So, I&#039;m not sure any of this discussion is worth our concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: &#8220;Keep an eye out for any generic word TLD submissions. If ICANN starts approving anything like dotBanks, dotLawyers or dotDoctors this thing is a farce.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already a farce.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget there is already .aero and .museum that have already been approved years ago. </p>
<p>How many of those have you seen developed?</p>
<p>.nyc and other &#8220;vanity domains&#8221; (as you say) will just go on the junk pile. </p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m not sure any of this discussion is worth our concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Acro</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/02/22/icann-hands-all-geo-gtld-extensions-over-to-governments-thats-just-the-start-of-the-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-11880</link>
		<dc:creator>Acro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ICANNT.com will soon be offering all domainers the .moon TLD. Yes folks! A TLD for the future colonies on the lunar surface. Dot Mars and Dot Venus will soon follow, buy your shares NOW!*

* Only $1,229 plus tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICANNT.com will soon be offering all domainers the .moon TLD. Yes folks! A TLD for the future colonies on the lunar surface. Dot Mars and Dot Venus will soon follow, buy your shares NOW!*</p>
<p>* Only $1,229 plus tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/02/22/icann-hands-all-geo-gtld-extensions-over-to-governments-thats-just-the-start-of-the-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-11878</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. 

I&#039;m dizzy #2.

Seriously, reading all of this and trying to make sense out of nonsense is astounding. 

Not to mention the fees. 

Of course, that&#039;s not astounding.

That&#039;s obscene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m dizzy #2.</p>
<p>Seriously, reading all of this and trying to make sense out of nonsense is astounding. </p>
<p>Not to mention the fees. </p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s not astounding.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s obscene.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Menius</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Menius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M. Castello - &quot;I am more concerned that the internet as a whole would be unable to function independently for its users.&quot;

Ditto. People have not yet wrapped their minds around the very real confusion that will be created. I&#039;m somewhat surprised more people haven&#039;t zeroed in yet on this over-the-cliff scenario when the right side of the dot becomes confused with the left side. 

Mark my words. It is going to become extremely messy. ICANN&#039;s ineptitude will finally surface for ALL the world to see with this ridiculous decision.

@Domainer - &quot;99% of the internet population would be totally confused by the new tlds.&quot;

Exactly. Companies will be pitted against one another. Much fallout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M. Castello &#8211; &#8220;I am more concerned that the internet as a whole would be unable to function independently for its users.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto. People have not yet wrapped their minds around the very real confusion that will be created. I&#8217;m somewhat surprised more people haven&#8217;t zeroed in yet on this over-the-cliff scenario when the right side of the dot becomes confused with the left side. </p>
<p>Mark my words. It is going to become extremely messy. ICANN&#8217;s ineptitude will finally surface for ALL the world to see with this ridiculous decision.</p>
<p>@Domainer &#8211; &#8220;99% of the internet population would be totally confused by the new tlds.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. Companies will be pitted against one another. Much fallout.</p>
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		<title>By: Domainer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of us reading this thread are pro&#039;s and have an understanding of domains.

99% of the internet population would be totally confused by the new tlds.

If I told my wife to checkout a site  at - hotels.PalmSprings.
She would type -  hotels.PalmSprings.com 
or HotelsPalmSprings.com 

She really doesn&#039;t understand the secondary tlds like .info and .biz .  

All the tlds she knows is .com - .net - .org - .us - .gov .

I doubt she would &quot;type-in&quot; more than .com and .org.

I believe she is the average internet surfer.

I believe most of the tlds that might come out of Icann&#039;s new folly will die a quick death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us reading this thread are pro&#8217;s and have an understanding of domains.</p>
<p>99% of the internet population would be totally confused by the new tlds.</p>
<p>If I told my wife to checkout a site  at &#8211; hotels.PalmSprings.<br />
She would type &#8211;  hotels.PalmSprings.com<br />
or HotelsPalmSprings.com </p>
<p>She really doesn&#8217;t understand the secondary tlds like .info and .biz .  </p>
<p>All the tlds she knows is .com &#8211; .net &#8211; .org &#8211; .us &#8211; .gov .</p>
<p>I doubt she would &#8220;type-in&#8221; more than .com and .org.</p>
<p>I believe she is the average internet surfer.</p>
<p>I believe most of the tlds that might come out of Icann&#8217;s new folly will die a quick death.</p>
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