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	<title>Comments on: Wow We Actually Bought Domains At DomainFest:  Our Take, Our Suggestions &amp; How About That &#8220;Other&#8221; Auction</title>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aj

5 .me and 5 .travel were offered at the live auction as was 1 .asia, of which only 1 hit over $10K and some did not even meet reserve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aj</p>
<p>5 .me and 5 .travel were offered at the live auction as was 1 .asia, of which only 1 hit over $10K and some did not even meet reserve</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the look of the line-up, 95% of the domains are already .com. Why not expand to other channels such as .me, .mobi, .asia, and .travel?  They offer value, especially if they are specific. 
Remember that the first into a trend are the ones that make it ($$$) big time.  Times are tough but the opportunity with alternative domains is with those that get in early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the look of the line-up, 95% of the domains are already .com. Why not expand to other channels such as .me, .mobi, .asia, and .travel?  They offer value, especially if they are specific.<br />
Remember that the first into a trend are the ones that make it ($$$) big time.  Times are tough but the opportunity with alternative domains is with those that get in early.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XF

The auction length isn&#039;t a problem, I mean the auctions that netted over $5 million and over $10 million were longer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XF</p>
<p>The auction length isn&#8217;t a problem, I mean the auctions that netted over $5 million and over $10 million were longer</p>
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		<title>By: M. Menius</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Menius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll keep saying this: name selection! It&#039;s partially true about beauty being in the eye of the beholder. That being said, I&#039;m seeing only a few really nice quality domains in these auctions. Plenty of marginal quality domains. 

When you couple marginal quality domains with higher reserves, you get what you got. Factor in the economy and all is clear. 

From my vantage point, many high quality name holders are waiting out the depressed market. They&#039;re selling the lower tiers from their portfolio, if at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll keep saying this: name selection! It&#8217;s partially true about beauty being in the eye of the beholder. That being said, I&#8217;m seeing only a few really nice quality domains in these auctions. Plenty of marginal quality domains. </p>
<p>When you couple marginal quality domains with higher reserves, you get what you got. Factor in the economy and all is clear. </p>
<p>From my vantage point, many high quality name holders are waiting out the depressed market. They&#8217;re selling the lower tiers from their portfolio, if at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sequin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Sequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domainers have enough domains and are thinking about development, scaling back or working with what they have. 

Domainers are generally not in expansion/speculation mode so yes, end user prospects are the future of domain sales. 

You can go to my http://SellingToEndUsers.com page and read my process for selling to end users and give it a try yourself. 

(Sorry for the self promotion but it&#039;s a great process that I use and posted for other domainers to see and use.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domainers have enough domains and are thinking about development, scaling back or working with what they have. </p>
<p>Domainers are generally not in expansion/speculation mode so yes, end user prospects are the future of domain sales. </p>
<p>You can go to my <a href="http://SellingToEndUsers.com" rel="nofollow">http://SellingToEndUsers.com</a> page and read my process for selling to end users and give it a try yourself. </p>
<p>(Sorry for the self promotion but it&#8217;s a great process that I use and posted for other domainers to see and use.)</p>
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		<title>By: XF.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>XF.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an attender/bidder,

the auctions are just too long.

4 hours?  Come on!

Let&#039;s do 30-40 really great names
at great deals, and you&#039;ll see
sales pick up.

I sat in for an hour and left
and came back 2  hours later and it wasn&#039;t over yet.

It&#039;s just too long to sit through.

Aron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an attender/bidder,</p>
<p>the auctions are just too long.</p>
<p>4 hours?  Come on!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do 30-40 really great names<br />
at great deals, and you&#8217;ll see<br />
sales pick up.</p>
<p>I sat in for an hour and left<br />
and came back 2  hours later and it wasn&#8217;t over yet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too long to sit through.</p>
<p>Aron</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Toonz.

Your points about the entire process being tedious
and antiquated ring true.

I find the whole auction thing a big turn off myself and feel that selling to domainers is a dying model.

The once healthy PPC revenues are a thing of the past and so is buying based on revenue.

The end user is the future to those who are creative enough to find the right eyeballs and stand a chance at making the most $$$.

I am pretty much done with wasting my time
with these industry wholesale auctions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Toonz.</p>
<p>Your points about the entire process being tedious<br />
and antiquated ring true.</p>
<p>I find the whole auction thing a big turn off myself and feel that selling to domainers is a dying model.</p>
<p>The once healthy PPC revenues are a thing of the past and so is buying based on revenue.</p>
<p>The end user is the future to those who are creative enough to find the right eyeballs and stand a chance at making the most $$$.</p>
<p>I am pretty much done with wasting my time<br />
with these industry wholesale auctions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cartoonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cartoonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great points about the auction have been made.

Here are my thoughts...

Even though commissions were raised to 15% and promises were made to the sellers that the domains would be widely marketed to end users and domainers alike, I think we can all agree that did not happen in the slightest fashion.

The auction catalog... Excel format?  This is 2009, not 1999... let&#039;s get with the program.  I don&#039;t know about anyone else but that thing makes my eyes bleed just trying to sift through it.

Submissions...  Think you can submit names and then go back into your account and add pertinent data later, such as stats and descriptions?  HaHa.. think again... think &quot;Black Hole&quot;... that&#039;s right, you can&#039;t.  So you try and find a support rep to help you... I doubt I have to even comment on how fruitless that is.  I had one single word generic name rejected that makes over $1100/mo with a 6yr reserve - all because I couldn&#039;t get back in to add that info... oh well.

Now, as for the names themselves...  There really were some great values there and some others that may be overpriced for wholesale domainer to domainer pricing, that is true.  But what if the promised marketing had actually been done beforehand and the names had been dutifully shopped out to the various end user industries?  I read one account of there being less than 100 online bidders at the auction.  Doubtful many of them were not domainers, huh?  

Sure, times are tight and domainers are looking for bargains.  That&#039;s reasonable.

But not making any more than the bare minimum effort to garner attention, buzz, and excitement over this event?  That&#039;s something else entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great points about the auction have been made.</p>
<p>Here are my thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>Even though commissions were raised to 15% and promises were made to the sellers that the domains would be widely marketed to end users and domainers alike, I think we can all agree that did not happen in the slightest fashion.</p>
<p>The auction catalog&#8230; Excel format?  This is 2009, not 1999&#8230; let&#8217;s get with the program.  I don&#8217;t know about anyone else but that thing makes my eyes bleed just trying to sift through it.</p>
<p>Submissions&#8230;  Think you can submit names and then go back into your account and add pertinent data later, such as stats and descriptions?  HaHa.. think again&#8230; think &#8220;Black Hole&#8221;&#8230; that&#8217;s right, you can&#8217;t.  So you try and find a support rep to help you&#8230; I doubt I have to even comment on how fruitless that is.  I had one single word generic name rejected that makes over $1100/mo with a 6yr reserve &#8211; all because I couldn&#8217;t get back in to add that info&#8230; oh well.</p>
<p>Now, as for the names themselves&#8230;  There really were some great values there and some others that may be overpriced for wholesale domainer to domainer pricing, that is true.  But what if the promised marketing had actually been done beforehand and the names had been dutifully shopped out to the various end user industries?  I read one account of there being less than 100 online bidders at the auction.  Doubtful many of them were not domainers, huh?  </p>
<p>Sure, times are tight and domainers are looking for bargains.  That&#8217;s reasonable.</p>
<p>But not making any more than the bare minimum effort to garner attention, buzz, and excitement over this event?  That&#8217;s something else entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MHB
{I had lunch with Elliot, by the way a really great guy, and we were sitting at a table with a bunch of domainers right before the auction and none of them had even had time to look at the list}  I was the one sitting next to your wife at that lunch table.   Fly safely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MHB<br />
{I had lunch with Elliot, by the way a really great guy, and we were sitting at a table with a bunch of domainers right before the auction and none of them had even had time to look at the list}  I was the one sitting next to your wife at that lunch table.   Fly safely.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

“The list, final and done, needs to be out at least 2 full weeks before the auction so proper promotion can do done.” 

Funny thing is you can have a list of 90% of the names 3-4 weeks before the auction.  Publish it - promote it - sell it.

Then add a supplement the day before - all auctions work like this and there is no reason a full list should not be available even longer than 2 weeks before an auction.

Ironically, this seems to be the same story every time so hopefully next time .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>“The list, final and done, needs to be out at least 2 full weeks before the auction so proper promotion can do done.” </p>
<p>Funny thing is you can have a list of 90% of the names 3-4 weeks before the auction.  Publish it &#8211; promote it &#8211; sell it.</p>
<p>Then add a supplement the day before &#8211; all auctions work like this and there is no reason a full list should not be available even longer than 2 weeks before an auction.</p>
<p>Ironically, this seems to be the same story every time so hopefully next time &#8230;..</p>
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