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		<title>By: [EN] Kentucky Supreme Court Reverses The Appeals Court On 141 gambling domain names &#124; DomBiz.nl &#124; Het laatste domein nieuws het eerst op DomBiz.nl</title>
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		<dc:creator>[EN] Kentucky Supreme Court Reverses The Appeals Court On 141 gambling domain names &#124; DomBiz.nl &#124; Het laatste domein nieuws het eerst op DomBiz.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Kentucky Supreme Court today reversed the Kentucky Appeals court’s decision that tossed out the seizure order issued on 141 gam.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kentucky Supreme Court Reverses The Appeals Court On The 141 Seized Domains &#124; Domaining Manual</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-28008</link>
		<dc:creator>Kentucky Supreme Court Reverses The Appeals Court On The 141 Seized Domains &#124; Domaining Manual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Kentucky Supreme Court today reversed the Kentucky Appeals court&#8217;s decision that tossed out the seizure order issued on 141.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kentucky Domain Seziure Case Is Appealed To The Kentucky Supreme Court &#124; The domain industry's news source</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-11347</link>
		<dc:creator>Kentucky Domain Seziure Case Is Appealed To The Kentucky Supreme Court &#124; The domain industry's news source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Governor Steve Beshear&#8217;s staff filed a notice yesterday that they will appeal the ruling of the Kentucky Court of Appeals, to the Kentucky Supreme [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Comma Nazi</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-11295</link>
		<dc:creator>Comma Nazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In a 2-1 decision the Kentucky Appeals court found the trial court, did not have subject matter jurisdiction over the case because domains are not &#039;gambling devices&#039; as prohibited by the Kentucky statute:&quot;

Try:

In a 2-1 decision, the Kentucky Appeals court found the trial court did not have subject matter jurisdiction over the case, because domains are not &#039;gambling devices,&#039; as prohibited by the Kentucky statute:


ALSO:

&quot;So bottom line, a win is a win, and the action of the appeals court solves the current crisis, but it does not give domainers, or gambling site owners, much reason to sleep any better.&quot;

TRY:

&quot;So, bottom line: a win is a win, and the action of the appeals court solves the current crisis.  But, it does not give domainers or gambling site owners much reason to sleep any better.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In a 2-1 decision the Kentucky Appeals court found the trial court, did not have subject matter jurisdiction over the case because domains are not &#8216;gambling devices&#8217; as prohibited by the Kentucky statute:&#8221;</p>
<p>Try:</p>
<p>In a 2-1 decision, the Kentucky Appeals court found the trial court did not have subject matter jurisdiction over the case, because domains are not &#8216;gambling devices,&#8217; as prohibited by the Kentucky statute:</p>
<p>ALSO:</p>
<p>&#8220;So bottom line, a win is a win, and the action of the appeals court solves the current crisis, but it does not give domainers, or gambling site owners, much reason to sleep any better.&#8221;</p>
<p>TRY:</p>
<p>&#8220;So, bottom line: a win is a win, and the action of the appeals court solves the current crisis.  But, it does not give domainers or gambling site owners much reason to sleep any better.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-11280</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard

Certainly I would not advice people to use a registrar in China for their domains.

However I think people have less exposure in using a registrar offshore in a &quot;safe&quot; country that doesn&#039;t have to honor decisions from courts in the US or China.

If someone wants to stay with a US registrar, then I agree they need to take note of past conduct of  registrars that protect people&#039;s interests and those that give them up away.

I agree with your assessment of US based registrars and personally, would recommend people use moniker.com, if they want to stay within the US</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard</p>
<p>Certainly I would not advice people to use a registrar in China for their domains.</p>
<p>However I think people have less exposure in using a registrar offshore in a &#8220;safe&#8221; country that doesn&#8217;t have to honor decisions from courts in the US or China.</p>
<p>If someone wants to stay with a US registrar, then I agree they need to take note of past conduct of  registrars that protect people&#8217;s interests and those that give them up away.</p>
<p>I agree with your assessment of US based registrars and personally, would recommend people use moniker.com, if they want to stay within the US</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Neu</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-11277</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Neu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those who do not feel comfortable sitting and waiting to see if they become the next target for an overzealous prosecutor or government official, make sleep better having their assets offshore&quot;.

Unfortunately, Michael, the U.S. does not have a monopoly on overzealous prosecutors and government officials.  They can be found most everywhere in the world. (look what&#039;s happening in China). 

 However, the lesson to be learned is that there are registrars out there that do not look out for their customers such as eNom and GoDaddy that turned the subject domains over to Kentucky, while Moniker did NOT.  Now those 2 registrars are in the embarrassing position of trying to get the domains back from Kentucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those who do not feel comfortable sitting and waiting to see if they become the next target for an overzealous prosecutor or government official, make sleep better having their assets offshore&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Michael, the U.S. does not have a monopoly on overzealous prosecutors and government officials.  They can be found most everywhere in the world. (look what&#8217;s happening in China). </p>
<p> However, the lesson to be learned is that there are registrars out there that do not look out for their customers such as eNom and GoDaddy that turned the subject domains over to Kentucky, while Moniker did NOT.  Now those 2 registrars are in the embarrassing position of trying to get the domains back from Kentucky.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

I believe moniker.com is the best US registrar.

An offshore registrar will offer more protection in certain situations, it will have to be your call</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>I believe moniker.com is the best US registrar.</p>
<p>An offshore registrar will offer more protection in certain situations, it will have to be your call</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/20/kentucky-appeals-court-overturns-the-domain-seizure-order/comment-page-1/#comment-11275</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seem to be two Richard&#039;s here :-)  I should have looked closer before posting.

Anyhow, I have my domains with Moniker, which I chose because of their good reputation and security against hijacking. And price. And convenience.

Now I&#039;m wondering whether or not another registrar might offer more protection against seemingly arbitrary court rulings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seem to be two Richard&#8217;s here <img src='http://www.thedomains.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I should have looked closer before posting.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I have my domains with Moniker, which I chose because of their good reputation and security against hijacking. And price. And convenience.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m wondering whether or not another registrar might offer more protection against seemingly arbitrary court rulings</p>
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		<title>By: Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; What Domainers Should (and Shouldn&#8217;t) Do Post Kentucky - The Domain Industry's News Source</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; What Domainers Should (and Shouldn&#8217;t) Do Post Kentucky - The Domain Industry's News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Berkens pointed out, this is a narrow victory. Electronic Frontier Foundation writes  that the ruling suggests to the Kentucky legislature that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

As Dave said It depends on the case.

In this situation that came up in Kentucky having your domains in an offshore registry definitely would have helped because the order of seizure went out to the registrars and those offshore just disregarded it.

Some of the US based registrars gave up the domains and had the order been upheld they would have had to give up the domains.

Now certainly things like WIPO&#039;s and UDRP&#039;s  cut across the board to all ICANN registrars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>As Dave said It depends on the case.</p>
<p>In this situation that came up in Kentucky having your domains in an offshore registry definitely would have helped because the order of seizure went out to the registrars and those offshore just disregarded it.</p>
<p>Some of the US based registrars gave up the domains and had the order been upheld they would have had to give up the domains.</p>
<p>Now certainly things like WIPO&#8217;s and UDRP&#8217;s  cut across the board to all ICANN registrars.</p>
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