Mike Robertson
Business Development Manager
Fabulous.com

“”"While ICANN “is” registered in the USA, then the courts/law goes after them, and then they in turn go after the ICANN registered domain seller…
providing full cooperation…and ICANN takes it upon themselves to provide the information that the registrar has to the US authorities.”"”"

ICANN doesn’t do this.

If someone files an UDRP or WIPO action then ICANN has rules that govern this and all registrars wherever located will have to follow the same rules and procedure, but court action is different.

Just like a US company is not going to honor a court order issued by Costa Rica, a Costa Rican company is not going to follow an order of a US court.

There are many ICANN accredited registrars located outside the US, but in my opinion there are very few outside of industrialized nations, if true offshore jurisdiction.

You can check out NameVault.com where we have all our domains registered. It is an ICANN accredited registrar, organized, and operating in and under the laws of the Bahamas

Now while I agree with what you’re saying, what I’m having trouble with is:

Offshore registrars, having no offices, employee or bank accounts in the US, do not have to follow the order of a US court, were as US based registrars do.

But if you have to become ICANN affiliated, then isn’t that working somewhat like a conduit to the domain registrar?
example, and I understand if I’m unclear in my asking or “perception”…although it sounds and looks good in my head LOL

so example:
I jump through all the hoops necessary to become a domain reeller or a registrar according to ICANN
While ICANN “is” registered in the USA, then the courts/law goes after them, and then they in turn go after the ICANN registered domain seller…
providing full cooperation…and ICANN takes it upon themselves to provide the information that the registrar has to the US authorities.

China has resellers
I assume China has to go through ICANN?
so because they’re “representatives of ICANN (according to ICANN’s Policy and procedures)
and ICANN is US based, then isn’t there the link for the US authorites to get the info it requires?

Sorry again, I was actually looking for offshore registrar’s, and couldn’t seem to find any, as they were all affilitiated somehow with ICANN, which to me being american based, is then not really being offshore.

It would seem that a complete new entity for offshore registrants, and domains, like the offshore company’s would need to be created as somewhat of a competitor to ICANN…

If I’m an ICANN based registrar, and ICANN says to me, pony up with the info we require or lose your registrar status, I wonder what the outcome would be in that regard..especially since a lot of them make gourds of cash from it.

Keep the info coming….I’ve got a couple other queries about hosting compnay’s and charges they charge and practises they do, but will look for an appropriate thread on that.

Thanks in advance, for all the great input

All good questions.

“”"In order to sell domain names, or be a “registrar”
doesn’t one have to be a member of sorts with
ICANN? which is based in the USA?”"”

Correct.

To be a domain registrar you have to be ICANN accredited and all registrar must follow their rules.

“”"If that’s the case, how would one actually “register” a domain name offshore”"

By registering a domain in a registrar located in an offshore jurisdiction.

Now where the offshore registrar could save your butt, is in a situation like the Kentucky domain seizure order, or when last year the government ordered certain domains dealing with Cuba seized from US based registrars.

Offshore registrars, having no offices, employee or bank accounts in the US, do not have to follow the order of a US court, were as US based registrars do.

Most enforcement action is US based so being outside the US can only help.

In order to sell domain names, or be a “registrar”
doesn’t one have to be a member of sorts with
ICANN? which is based in the USA?
so if that’s the case, how would one actually “register” a domain name offshore, if the governing body of registrar’s is US based?

Apparently, and please correct me if I’m wrong on this, but even domain sellers/resellers based in australia, asia, have to be ICANN approved/Registered.

I am sure it’s for consistency across the board, as if someone is going to register a TLD or any name for that matter, that they would have the backing of ICANN with at least some recourse to fall back on…
correct?

I was just curious and would like to keep this discussion thread going, as I don’t know or aren’t sure how someone would actually register a domain name offshore,..

Discuss amongst yourself

That’s funny.
Do as I say, not as I do.

Like the cartoon I saw the other day -
A very overweight doctor telling his thinner looking patient -
“you need to start exercising.”

Best,
Mike

http://www.wannadevelop.com

Frank’s ChiliBeans.com was not developed and parking a name is becoming less safe every day. If you want to protect your name develop it.

Good catch

I’m going to write to the author