Comments on: The .ORG Registry Adopts A Domain Anti-Abuse Policy; Allows For Domain Cancellation: Are Your .Org’s At Risk? http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:38:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Domain OZ! » Blog Archive » Domain Names Growth trends for the past 3 years http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-19269 Domain OZ! » Blog Archive » Domain Names Growth trends for the past 3 years Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:06:18 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-19269 [...] phishing sites. I’m aware that PIR(The body that runs .ORG) is doing something about this. Read here and here and [...] [...] phishing sites. I’m aware that PIR(The body that runs .ORG) is doing something about this. Read here and here and [...]

]]> By: 2009 Domain Name Predictions | RegistryASP http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-12289 2009 Domain Name Predictions | RegistryASP Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:18:39 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-12289 [...] sites. I’m aware that PIR(The body that runs .ORG) is doing something about this. Read here and here and [...] [...] sites. I’m aware that PIR(The body that runs .ORG) is doing something about this. Read here and here and [...]

]]> By: PIR’s Anti-Abuse Policy for .ORG Offers No Due Process for Innocent Domain Registrants | Buy And Sell Domains http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-11959 PIR’s Anti-Abuse Policy for .ORG Offers No Due Process for Innocent Domain Registrants | Buy And Sell Domains Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:05:13 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-11959 [...] an anti-abuse policy that offers no due process for innocent domain registrants. See discussions here, here, here and here for background [...] [...] an anti-abuse policy that offers no due process for innocent domain registrants. See discussions here, here, here and here for background [...]

]]> By: jp http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-11312 jp Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:17:58 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-11312 Well there is always the court system right? An expenisve route to take, but I imagine that if PIR had to pay high enough damages for unjustly cancelling a .org they may think about setting up some sort of due process of their own to help circumvent the legal process. Well there is always the court system right? An expenisve route to take, but I imagine that if PIR had to pay high enough damages for unjustly cancelling a .org they may think about setting up some sort of due process of their own to help circumvent the legal process.

]]> By: George Kirikos http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10958 George Kirikos Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:31:33 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10958 PIR has finally posted about the policy on their blog at: http://blog.pir.org/?p=108 (I had scolded them on the CircleID site yesterday for not posting it) It might be worth giving them some feedback. PIR has finally posted about the policy on their blog at:

http://blog.pir.org/?p=108

(I had scolded them on the CircleID site yesterday for not posting it)

It might be worth giving them some feedback.

]]> By: George Kirikos http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10930 George Kirikos Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:33:14 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10930 Just as a heads-up, someone asked whether other registries can do this. The language that PIR (and Afilias) are taking advantage of doesn't exist in the .com agreement, so for now it's not an immediate issue. However, ICANN would not be in a position to deny VeriSign if they tried to get this power through a contract amendment, due to that equal treatment clause that I've been repeating over and over again in the tiered-pricing debate. The GNSO was supposed to be doing a consensus policy discussion, one that would be balanced on this issue, and receive and public consultation by everyone. But, once again the registries decide to go it on their own in an ad hoc manner, ignoring public input that would create safeguards, in an arrogant manner. It's that arrogance that should worry innocent registrants, when it comes time to consider how their "sole discretion" will be applied. Just as a heads-up, someone asked whether other registries can do this. The language that PIR (and Afilias) are taking advantage of doesn’t exist in the .com agreement, so for now it’s not an immediate issue. However, ICANN would not be in a position to deny VeriSign if they tried to get this power through a contract amendment, due to that equal treatment clause that I’ve been repeating over and over again in the tiered-pricing debate.

The GNSO was supposed to be doing a consensus policy discussion, one that would be balanced on this issue, and receive and public consultation by everyone. But, once again the registries decide to go it on their own in an ad hoc manner, ignoring public input that would create safeguards, in an arrogant manner. It’s that arrogance that should worry innocent registrants, when it comes time to consider how their “sole discretion” will be applied.

]]> By: George Kirikos http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10928 George Kirikos Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:18:55 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10928 I would hope that there will be some push back by registrars this time, compared to what happened with .info. .info is a marginal registry, whereas .org has much greater importance. If anyone is a Tucows reseller, I've posted on the Tucows forum too: http://opensrs.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=30 so you might want to add your voice there. As I said over there, due process is the only thing that protects the innocent from the mistakes and whims of the powerful, and in this case all the power is being held by the registry operator, to use at its sole discretion. Much stronger safeguards are needed to ensure that in trying to stop alleged "abuse", the registries don't in turn become the abusers. I would hope that there will be some push back by registrars this time, compared to what happened with .info. .info is a marginal registry, whereas .org has much greater importance.

If anyone is a Tucows reseller, I’ve posted on the Tucows forum too:

http://opensrs.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=30

so you might want to add your voice there. As I said over there, due process is the only thing that protects the innocent from the mistakes and whims of the powerful, and in this case all the power is being held by the registry operator, to use at its sole discretion. Much stronger safeguards are needed to ensure that in trying to stop alleged “abuse”, the registries don’t in turn become the abusers.

]]> By: MHB http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10925 MHB Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:02:10 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10925 George The notice was send out last night by PIR to all domain registrars. George

The notice was send out last night by PIR to all domain registrars.

]]> By: George Kirikos http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10924 George Kirikos Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:00:33 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10924 Any website with dynamic content has a good chance of getting exploited at some point, given vulnerabilities in scripts, etc. Heck, even static sites can get hacked. Any site with user-generated content would especially be at risk (e.g. people uploading inappropriate images, "illegal" text like threatening the US president's life, etc.). I've not even received this "notice" from PIR. Was it sent out by registrars, or.... ? My WHOIS is alway accurate, so they should have no problems reaching me. Any website with dynamic content has a good chance of getting exploited at some point, given vulnerabilities in scripts, etc. Heck, even static sites can get hacked. Any site with user-generated content would especially be at risk (e.g. people uploading inappropriate images, “illegal” text like threatening the US president’s life, etc.).

I’ve not even received this “notice” from PIR. Was it sent out by registrars, or…. ? My WHOIS is alway accurate, so they should have no problems reaching me.

]]> By: M. Menius http://www.thedomains.com/2009/01/06/the-org-registry-adopts-anti-abuse-policy-allows-for-domain-cancellation/comment-page-1/#comment-10923 M. Menius Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:52:35 +0000 http://www.thedomains.com/?p=1613#comment-10923 @MHB - "we do have to be concerned that an innocent domain could wind up with its registration deleted" Definitely agree. We've seen repeatedly that registries will put their interest far above that of the customers that keep them in business. @MHB – “we do have to be concerned that an innocent domain could wind up with its registration deleted”

Definitely agree. We’ve seen repeatedly that registries will put their interest far above that of the customers that keep them in business.

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