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	<title>Comments on: Tucows President Responds to Our Post About YummyNames.com</title>
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		<title>By: StevenH</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61529</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SDM  I&#039;d lay money that registrars would simple hold the names for whatever &quot;share period&quot; there might be and then sell the names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SDM  I&#8217;d lay money that registrars would simple hold the names for whatever &#8220;share period&#8221; there might be and then sell the names.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenH</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61526</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather see rules created for domain ownership that would take the registrar completely out of the ownership cycle. Whether by beginning the deletion process at 14 or 30 days prior to expiration, or requiring multiple year registrations.  The registrars, while having to foot a small reg fee in the deletion window, are placed in a position of reaping massive profits on the financial hardship or absent mindedness of their clients.

I&#039;m also weary of the fact that registrars can sniff at lightspeed while we as the end users can be banned if we sniff more than a few times per minute.  So they have a built in advantage by removing any possibility of a lucky catch to junk names.  The system isn&#039;t setup to be a level playing field in any direction.  I remember the days of Netsol being the ONLY registrar by government mandate...  and $200 Yr reg fees.  Registrars have enjoyed a monopoly which simply isn&#039;t acceptable in any other industry that I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather see rules created for domain ownership that would take the registrar completely out of the ownership cycle. Whether by beginning the deletion process at 14 or 30 days prior to expiration, or requiring multiple year registrations.  The registrars, while having to foot a small reg fee in the deletion window, are placed in a position of reaping massive profits on the financial hardship or absent mindedness of their clients.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also weary of the fact that registrars can sniff at lightspeed while we as the end users can be banned if we sniff more than a few times per minute.  So they have a built in advantage by removing any possibility of a lucky catch to junk names.  The system isn&#8217;t setup to be a level playing field in any direction.  I remember the days of Netsol being the ONLY registrar by government mandate&#8230;  and $200 Yr reg fees.  Registrars have enjoyed a monopoly which simply isn&#8217;t acceptable in any other industry that I can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: SDM</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61517</link>
		<dc:creator>SDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@monte

A few thoughts:

Why not give registrants the option to participate in the proceeds from drop auctions?  If I could opt to pay an extra dollar per domain name at the time of registration to share 50/50 in the SnapNames&#039; auction proceeds for names I might later choose to let drop, I would not hesitate. Selling as an owner on SnapNames (in advance of the expiration date) is far different than drop auctions where the domain owner is no longer in control. 

Market makers promote liquidity. So what is the point of any party offering a domain name appraisal unless that party is willing to back it up with hard dollars? Even if Moniker offered (for a limited period of time following the appraisal date) to purchase a domain name for 50% of the value Moniker places on it, this would create instant liquidity and go a long way toward building confidence in domain valuations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@monte</p>
<p>A few thoughts:</p>
<p>Why not give registrants the option to participate in the proceeds from drop auctions?  If I could opt to pay an extra dollar per domain name at the time of registration to share 50/50 in the SnapNames&#8217; auction proceeds for names I might later choose to let drop, I would not hesitate. Selling as an owner on SnapNames (in advance of the expiration date) is far different than drop auctions where the domain owner is no longer in control. </p>
<p>Market makers promote liquidity. So what is the point of any party offering a domain name appraisal unless that party is willing to back it up with hard dollars? Even if Moniker offered (for a limited period of time following the appraisal date) to purchase a domain name for 50% of the value Moniker places on it, this would create instant liquidity and go a long way toward building confidence in domain valuations.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61481</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas_Successclick.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think domainers understand that EVERY REGISTRAR sucks up the &quot;good&quot; domains as fast as they can when you forget to renew them. I had one snatched from a company I&#039;ve worked with for five years just this month, they sent it to auction with 35 days of it expiring and sold it. I was then contacted by my own rep at that registrar who gleefully told me she contacted the &quot;buyer&quot; of my domain, who would sell it back to me for only $1,450. Isn&#039;t that how we domainers with over 1000 domains at a registrar want to be treated?  My experience in 11 years of domain buying is most registrars would return it to you in this time for a price. That is, if they didn&#039;t have a built-in auction site connected to it.

Most ethical registrars will wait 45 days after expiry to steal your domain and make a profit from it. 

Most registrars aren&#039;t ethical -- except Fabulous so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think domainers understand that EVERY REGISTRAR sucks up the &#8220;good&#8221; domains as fast as they can when you forget to renew them. I had one snatched from a company I&#8217;ve worked with for five years just this month, they sent it to auction with 35 days of it expiring and sold it. I was then contacted by my own rep at that registrar who gleefully told me she contacted the &#8220;buyer&#8221; of my domain, who would sell it back to me for only $1,450. Isn&#8217;t that how we domainers with over 1000 domains at a registrar want to be treated?  My experience in 11 years of domain buying is most registrars would return it to you in this time for a price. That is, if they didn&#8217;t have a built-in auction site connected to it.</p>
<p>Most ethical registrars will wait 45 days after expiry to steal your domain and make a profit from it. </p>
<p>Most registrars aren&#8217;t ethical &#8212; except Fabulous so far.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenH</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61430</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll retract the 6 day snurk. You see, I also get hundreds of emails on a daily basis myself, yet somehow I manage to answer them, myself.  I will say that you did get back to me in 3 days.  The rest stands.  If you think think gobble.com is in the same class as rattle.com and jumble.com by virtue of having an &quot;le&quot; at the end then please, by all means, shoot for the moon on it.  I&#039;m sure someone out there, who may be flush with cash from a recent lotto payoff, will gladly pay 5 figures based on your assertion of the value for such a name.

You might want to update appraisers that gobble.com somehow bucks the trends unbeknownst to them as well. Oh and let Google know that Gobble is in fact searched as many times per month (3 days before Thanksgiving)

As for a registrar building up a portfolio of high value names:  Somehow I think that a registrar has an unfair advantage and is highly suspect of shady dealings. In fact if this is perfectly legal according to ICANN, it might be worth pointing the AG toward.  As you know, regardless of what ICANN might claim as &quot;perfectly legal&quot;, it may not actually be legal in the real world. You know, Unfair Practice Act and all that legal nonsense.

 But I digress, as this is just one mans opinion for what little it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll retract the 6 day snurk. You see, I also get hundreds of emails on a daily basis myself, yet somehow I manage to answer them, myself.  I will say that you did get back to me in 3 days.  The rest stands.  If you think think gobble.com is in the same class as rattle.com and jumble.com by virtue of having an &#8220;le&#8221; at the end then please, by all means, shoot for the moon on it.  I&#8217;m sure someone out there, who may be flush with cash from a recent lotto payoff, will gladly pay 5 figures based on your assertion of the value for such a name.</p>
<p>You might want to update appraisers that gobble.com somehow bucks the trends unbeknownst to them as well. Oh and let Google know that Gobble is in fact searched as many times per month (3 days before Thanksgiving)</p>
<p>As for a registrar building up a portfolio of high value names:  Somehow I think that a registrar has an unfair advantage and is highly suspect of shady dealings. In fact if this is perfectly legal according to ICANN, it might be worth pointing the AG toward.  As you know, regardless of what ICANN might claim as &#8220;perfectly legal&#8221;, it may not actually be legal in the real world. You know, Unfair Practice Act and all that legal nonsense.</p>
<p> But I digress, as this is just one mans opinion for what little it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61421</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t

We may not like it but perfectly legal and within ICANN Rules</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t</p>
<p>We may not like it but perfectly legal and within ICANN Rules</p>
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		<title>By: don'tsweatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>don'tsweatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill if you valued your customers domain names as much as you claim to value their time yummy names would not own the 3, 4, 5, and 6 letter highly brandable domain names that you sell at yummy names. Remember you scooped them off of your clients!!! Maybe you should concentrate on valuing your clients and their names and businesses as opposed to their time. Scummy names YUK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill if you valued your customers domain names as much as you claim to value their time yummy names would not own the 3, 4, 5, and 6 letter highly brandable domain names that you sell at yummy names. Remember you scooped them off of your clients!!! Maybe you should concentrate on valuing your clients and their names and businesses as opposed to their time. Scummy names YUK</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sweetman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Sweetman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steven,

I&#039;m the General Manager of YummyNames, and I would like to address your comments:

* &quot;It only took 6 days to get back to me.&quot;

I checked and you emailed us on Friday at 6:38 PM our time. We replied the following Monday at 10:59 AM. Our goal is to reply within one or two business days, which we did. The reply did have to wait over the weekend and maybe that&#039;s why it seemed longer to you.

* &quot;They sent a canned response.&quot;

Yes, our initial responses are &#039;canned&#039;. Given the number of inquiries we deal with daily that is the only way we can manage.

* &quot;It&#039;s a fairly obscure dictionary name thats worth about $2-4k and they said they want high 5 figures  SHYEA RIGHT!

It&#039;s a six-letter, one-word, highly-brandable .com domain similar to Rattle.com or Jumble.com. If you shop around, I think you will find that domains like that are hard to find for less than five figures.

* &quot;To avoid sticker shock they want me to send them my finacial to make sure (they can hammer me) I can afford what they&#039;ll ask. Again SHYEA RIGHT!&quot;

We did NOT ask you for your financials. We asked you if your domain name acquisition budget would support a five-figure domain purchase like this because we value our customers&#039; time and don&#039;t want to waste it by entering into negotiations that will never go anywhere. This is a reasonably standard and time-honoured negotiation response.

Feel free to contact me directly at bill [at] yummynames.com if you&#039;d like to discuss any of this further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the General Manager of YummyNames, and I would like to address your comments:</p>
<p>* &#8220;It only took 6 days to get back to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I checked and you emailed us on Friday at 6:38 PM our time. We replied the following Monday at 10:59 AM. Our goal is to reply within one or two business days, which we did. The reply did have to wait over the weekend and maybe that&#8217;s why it seemed longer to you.</p>
<p>* &#8220;They sent a canned response.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, our initial responses are &#8216;canned&#8217;. Given the number of inquiries we deal with daily that is the only way we can manage.</p>
<p>* &#8220;It&#8217;s a fairly obscure dictionary name thats worth about $2-4k and they said they want high 5 figures  SHYEA RIGHT!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a six-letter, one-word, highly-brandable .com domain similar to Rattle.com or Jumble.com. If you shop around, I think you will find that domains like that are hard to find for less than five figures.</p>
<p>* &#8220;To avoid sticker shock they want me to send them my finacial to make sure (they can hammer me) I can afford what they&#8217;ll ask. Again SHYEA RIGHT!&#8221;</p>
<p>We did NOT ask you for your financials. We asked you if your domain name acquisition budget would support a five-figure domain purchase like this because we value our customers&#8217; time and don&#8217;t want to waste it by entering into negotiations that will never go anywhere. This is a reasonably standard and time-honoured negotiation response.</p>
<p>Feel free to contact me directly at bill [at] yummynames.com if you&#8217;d like to discuss any of this further.</p>
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		<title>By: Slate</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/10/31/tucows-responds-to-yummydomainscom/comment-page-3/#comment-61395</link>
		<dc:creator>Slate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play &quot;&quot; hide the peanut&quot;&quot; with my wife all the time. 
I am sorry if he doesn&#039;t.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play &#8220;&#8221; hide the peanut&#8221;" with my wife all the time.<br />
I am sorry if he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ StevenH, lol some companies make me laff..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ StevenH, lol some companies make me laff..</p>
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