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		<title>By: Will Obama Break the Internet? &#124; Green Taxi</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/08/02/bush-wont-give-up-us-oversight-of-internet-but-would-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7343</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Obama Break the Internet? &#124; Green Taxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a bit of an issue at hand here as to what would actually be lost, the .COM and .NET registry or the root servers that maintain the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: IaaS, the answer to an internet startup&#8217;s dreams but not a co-lo ... &#183;</title>
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		<dc:creator>IaaS, the answer to an internet startup&#8217;s dreams but not a co-lo ... &#183;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News &#187; News      News        Bush Won&#8217;t Give up US Oversight of Internet but Would Obama?2008-08-05 12:25:14That internet. This was reported Thursday by the central root servers that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

You might be right.  We may not know for sure until and unless the root servers are moved out and the courts decide.

On the other hand if the Root servers are allowed to be moved, looking long term and the Verisign contract is up in 2012, my guess would be a non-US company maybe awarded the new contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>You might be right.  We may not know for sure until and unless the root servers are moved out and the courts decide.</p>
<p>On the other hand if the Root servers are allowed to be moved, looking long term and the Verisign contract is up in 2012, my guess would be a non-US company maybe awarded the new contract.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the root servers and the .com Registry are &quot;separate&quot; things, aren&#039;t they? The former allow users around the world to access whatever stuff on the &#039;Net, while the latter keeps an authoritative record of domain registrations of that extension or so.

Currently I&#039;m thinking that even if the root servers are outside the U.S., non-U.S. registrants can still have legal issues with their .com domain names, for instance, as long as the .com Registry remains in Virginia or whatever jurisdiction it&#039;s in. Dell locked out BelgiumDomains et al, though that&#039;s limited to trademark infringement and not necessarily every other matter.

Then again, that depends on the type of legal issue, and domain registrants may not necessarily be affected themselves other than losing their domain names. *knock on wood*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the root servers and the .com Registry are &#8220;separate&#8221; things, aren&#8217;t they? The former allow users around the world to access whatever stuff on the &#8216;Net, while the latter keeps an authoritative record of domain registrations of that extension or so.</p>
<p>Currently I&#8217;m thinking that even if the root servers are outside the U.S., non-U.S. registrants can still have legal issues with their .com domain names, for instance, as long as the .com Registry remains in Virginia or whatever jurisdiction it&#8217;s in. Dell locked out BelgiumDomains et al, though that&#8217;s limited to trademark infringement and not necessarily every other matter.</p>
<p>Then again, that depends on the type of legal issue, and domain registrants may not necessarily be affected themselves other than losing their domain names. *knock on wood*</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://www.thedomains.com/2008/08/02/bush-wont-give-up-us-oversight-of-internet-but-would-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7130</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

I think if you read some of the cases US courts have given jurisdiction to US courts based on the root servers being based in Virgina, with jurisdiction in Virgina.

Verisign can manage the servers no matter where the servers are located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>I think if you read some of the cases US courts have given jurisdiction to US courts based on the root servers being based in Virgina, with jurisdiction in Virgina.</p>
<p>Verisign can manage the servers no matter where the servers are located.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If he did let the root servers leave the US then the jurisdiction that US courts have taken over non-US domain registrants would disappear and asssuming you were non-US based and you used a non-US based registrar, you would not longer be subject to US laws.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think something&#039;s being confused here. While Obama might &quot;let go&quot; of the root servers, the authoritative Registry of the domain name extension might still remain in U.S. soil.

Last I checked, VeriSign is contracted to manage 2 of them. But that&#039;s (probably) separate from their contract with ICANN to manage the .com and .net Registry.

Unless I&#039;m missing something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If he did let the root servers leave the US then the jurisdiction that US courts have taken over non-US domain registrants would disappear and asssuming you were non-US based and you used a non-US based registrar, you would not longer be subject to US laws.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think something&#8217;s being confused here. While Obama might &#8220;let go&#8221; of the root servers, the authoritative Registry of the domain name extension might still remain in U.S. soil.</p>
<p>Last I checked, VeriSign is contracted to manage 2 of them. But that&#8217;s (probably) separate from their contract with ICANN to manage the .com and .net Registry.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Damir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decission is being made behind close doors once Obama wins the so called election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decission is being made behind close doors once Obama wins the so called election.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, if there are conditions I&#039;ll feel more comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, if there are conditions I&#8217;ll feel more comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew

I agree but you would have to strongly assume the US government would only give up control to a country like Switzerland with the servers sitting in Gevena and would not agree to let Beijing have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew</p>
<p>I agree but you would have to strongly assume the US government would only give up control to a country like Switzerland with the servers sitting in Gevena and would not agree to let Beijing have them.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but it scares me to think that another country&#039;s laws could affect the internet.  Take China or any of the United Arab Emirates, for example.

U.S. courts can hurt, but they can also protect you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but it scares me to think that another country&#8217;s laws could affect the internet.  Take China or any of the United Arab Emirates, for example.</p>
<p>U.S. courts can hurt, but they can also protect you.</p>
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