Comments on: Tucows Still Pulling Their Own Domains out of Auctions

By: tucows

tucows — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:12:48 +0000

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By: MHB

MHB — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:25:08 +0000

Terrel

Your welcome.

By: Terrell

Terrell — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:22:16 +0000

MHB

The domain ended up being a name that was “accidentally” listed. It was removed from my auction account several weeks later with no refund. I was able to get an explanation and and the $60 refund through Ken.

Thanks for providing the platform for me to get an answer. I am not sure what I would have done otherwise.

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Tucows Still Pulling Their Own Domains out of Auctions | Domainers' Guide — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:18:59 +0000

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By: Jamie

Jamie — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:00:32 +0000

Namemedia and Tucows — both full of crap and dishonest companies. Do not deal with them.

By: MHB

MHB — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:24:13 +0000

Terrell

Let us know what answer you get.

By: Ken Schafer - Tucows

Ken Schafer - Tucows — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:08:17 +0000

@Terrell @30

Send me details and I’ll look into it for you. kschafer (at) tucows (dot) com

By: Terrell

Terrell — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:48:14 +0000

Ken – Why is no one at Tucows actually telling me why a name I won and paid for dissappeared from my account several weeks after it was paid for? I have contacted every email I had at Tucows but either get ignored or directed elsewhere? I am just looking for an answer.

By: jn

jn — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:03:19 +0000

this is all BS anyway – registrars should not be warehousing. i dont care if they pull the name back after it is in pre-bid. they are pulling them all back before releasing the garbage to afternic

By: Ken Schafer - Tucows

Ken Schafer - Tucows — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:04:17 +0000

Hi Mike,

Apologies for the lengthy comment, but you DID ask!

I just posted this to DotWeekly and since you reposted their question here, I’ll take the liberty of putting the full response here as well…

First let me outline the life-cycle of an expiring domain at Tucows and how it relates to the Afternic Auction:

Day 0 – Domain name expires. Original Registrant can renew domain at any time.

Day 3 – Domain parking enabled, parked page header might contain message indicating domain is expired (parking and header message are applied at the discretion of Tucows Resellers). Original Registrant can renew domain at any time.

Day 21 – Domain listed in Afternic marketplace where domain can receive PreOrders. Exceptions: names that have been renewed by Original Registrant, names that Afternic doesn’t want to list on its site (e.g., adult, trademark, vice names), names that Tucows has selected for its Portfolio. Original Registrant can renew domain at any time causing name to be removed from Afternic.

Day 26 – Domain parked page header changes to a specific auction message (unless Tucows Reseller has configured this differently), WHOIS info now includes auction message as well. Original Registrant can renew domain at any time causing name to be removed from Afternic.

Day 38 – Last day that Afternic accepts PreOrders on marketplace names. Original Registrant can renew domain at any time causing name to be removed from Afternic.

Day 40 – Last day that Original Registrant can renew domain, causing name to be removed from Afternic.

Day 41 – Start of 5-Day Live Auction (only for domains that had at least one PreOrder on them at the end of Day 38).

Day 46 – End of 5-Day Live Auction.

With that as background, let’s look at the specific names you mentioned and where they fit in the life-cycle:

Baecscp.com – expired 7-7-2008 – not on Afternic yet (< 21 days)

Jait.com – expired 7-5-2008 – not on Afternic yet (< 21 days)

BedFace.com – expired 6-27-2008 – not on Afternic yet ( 21 days)

X4M.com – expired 6-19-2008 – not on Afternic, chosen for Tucows Portfolio, Original Registrant can renew

WLF.com – expired 6-19-2008 – not on Afternic, chosen for Tucows Portfolio, Original Registrant can renew

NotAMan.com – expired 6-16-2008 – on Afternic as PreOrder (> 21 days)

Sags.org – expired 6-12-2008 – not on Afternic, chosen for Tucows Portfolio, Original Registrant can renew

IPBN.com – expired 6-11-2008 – not on Afternic, chosen for Tucows Portfolio, Original Registrant can renew

BetACot.com – expired 6-12-2008 – on Afternic as PreOrder (> 21 days)

ERDY.com – expired 5-29-2008 – currently in Live Auction (> 40 days)

MrCoffeeBean.com – expired 5-28-2008 – not on Afternic, renewed by Original Registrant prior to entering Live Auction

Oserinia.com – expired 5-27-2008 – currently in Live Auction (> 40 days)

I think that provides a pretty clear (albeit complicated) explanation of the data you’re seeing. I know you don’t like that we’re allowed to select expiring names for the Tucows Portfolio rather than letting them all go to auction or drop but that seems to be something we have to agree to disagree about.

Cheers,

Ken.