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		<title>By: “Why would any domainer sell his valuable name at a large auction”</title>
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		<dc:creator>“Why would any domainer sell his valuable name at a large auction”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I too believe that the original post and follow-up comments are truly insightful and provide very valuable and thought provoking information.

Wow!!! No plug, but while writing last parts of the above paragraph, it just flashed across my mind that I most probably got the domain ThoughtProvoking.info sometime last year. Off to check, and may be to start developing it!

Before I go, thank you for this thread, everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I too believe that the original post and follow-up comments are truly insightful and provide very valuable and thought provoking information.</p>
<p>Wow!!! No plug, but while writing last parts of the above paragraph, it just flashed across my mind that I most probably got the domain ThoughtProvoking.info sometime last year. Off to check, and may be to start developing it!</p>
<p>Before I go, thank you for this thread, everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good context to read which delivers information regarding the topic and very useful information to hang out with </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good context to read which delivers information regarding the topic and very useful information to hang out with</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . and it is exactly because this market is so imperfect, fragmented, idea, and yes--even opinion--rich, that it is as vibrant as it is.

So many options. So many ways to profit. So many paths to success.

You can have the stock market.

I&#039;ll take domains instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . and it is exactly because this market is so imperfect, fragmented, idea, and yes&#8211;even opinion&#8211;rich, that it is as vibrant as it is.</p>
<p>So many options. So many ways to profit. So many paths to success.</p>
<p>You can have the stock market.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take domains instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>continuing with the good vs bad strategy...

Even the guy who registered all combinations of the 6 letters in a circle around a focal letter on a qwerty keyboard, for Ex: G - bhytfv.com or hytfvb.com and 500+ combinations more.  I believe this idea is genius on some level, but idiotic on another.

I personally would not waste the annual reg fees on these domains, but the value for this guy is he has EVERY combination possible.  Due to that fact and some amazing marketing, maybe it is sellable.  

The cool thing about domains is there is just ONE.  That fact alone makes a name I believe is worthless whether it is a KEYWORDeBiz, 360, juygbn (around J now) sellable for thousands if just one guy registered it and now JUST ONE other guy really wants it.  It only takes 2 in this business...the registrant who really like the name and a party who wants it even more.

I know for a fact, we own at least 500 domains I like and value somewhat highly (say even $1000) that in reality most likely never sell.  But at $7 reg fees, I only need 1 of 142 to sell to break even...and those odds with good keyword and brand domains I like.

This is a great business.  Many minds, different strategies, and the a bunch of opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>continuing with the good vs bad strategy&#8230;</p>
<p>Even the guy who registered all combinations of the 6 letters in a circle around a focal letter on a qwerty keyboard, for Ex: G &#8211; bhytfv.com or hytfvb.com and 500+ combinations more.  I believe this idea is genius on some level, but idiotic on another.</p>
<p>I personally would not waste the annual reg fees on these domains, but the value for this guy is he has EVERY combination possible.  Due to that fact and some amazing marketing, maybe it is sellable.  </p>
<p>The cool thing about domains is there is just ONE.  That fact alone makes a name I believe is worthless whether it is a KEYWORDeBiz, 360, juygbn (around J now) sellable for thousands if just one guy registered it and now JUST ONE other guy really wants it.  It only takes 2 in this business&#8230;the registrant who really like the name and a party who wants it even more.</p>
<p>I know for a fact, we own at least 500 domains I like and value somewhat highly (say even $1000) that in reality most likely never sell.  But at $7 reg fees, I only need 1 of 142 to sell to break even&#8230;and those odds with good keyword and brand domains I like.</p>
<p>This is a great business.  Many minds, different strategies, and the a bunch of opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg

I agree with your statement

 &quot;The real point is, we all have strategies - some good, some bad&quot;

There are so many ways of investing in domains.  So many theories, so are bang on, some are less so but still successful.  Others may not pan out.

We all have a different way of looking at the business, and success can come many directions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg</p>
<p>I agree with your statement</p>
<p> &#8220;The real point is, we all have strategies &#8211; some good, some bad&#8221;</p>
<p>There are so many ways of investing in domains.  So many theories, so are bang on, some are less so but still successful.  Others may not pan out.</p>
<p>We all have a different way of looking at the business, and success can come many directions.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My other belief is a domain portfolio millionaire is really broke if the only valuation given is his own.&quot;

---so even a $300 per domain sale at least solidifies a value versus a $7 expense.  

I suspect whoever sold these names also has a multi-thousand name portfolio and wanted some liquidity and peace of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My other belief is a domain portfolio millionaire is really broke if the only valuation given is his own.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;so even a $300 per domain sale at least solidifies a value versus a $7 expense.  </p>
<p>I suspect whoever sold these names also has a multi-thousand name portfolio and wanted some liquidity and peace of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - 
NO desire for personal attacks; it does little good, but I reread my post and agree - in paragraph 1, that can be inferred for sure.  I take accountability.  And I fully agree with your last line with domains in general...&quot;Time...will bear this out&quot;.

Here are other examples that are not directed and could have been better used.  

A personal example - hyperplanes.com and hyperjets.com:  Are these names valuable - I think so, but selling them today may make them worthless or very little.  

Another company, shop360.com sold AC360.com for $12k+ last week.  I doubt I woud choose this 360 strategy, but I do have some 365&#039;s.  But, I think VR360 is cool.  

The real point is, we all have strategies - some good, some bad.  Last week we bought dad.net for $21,000.  99% of people think that was a stupid buy and I definitely do not argue it...not a huge .net fan myself and please people don&#039;t send me your .net lists at $20k now - we are not in the market.  But we wanted this name.  So, it worked for us.

I am gonna close as I got off the point of this thread. Jeff I wish you the best, whether we agree or not, it all comes to personal strategy.

My other belief is a domain portfolio millionaire is really broke if the only valuation given is his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211;<br />
NO desire for personal attacks; it does little good, but I reread my post and agree &#8211; in paragraph 1, that can be inferred for sure.  I take accountability.  And I fully agree with your last line with domains in general&#8230;&#8221;Time&#8230;will bear this out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here are other examples that are not directed and could have been better used.  </p>
<p>A personal example &#8211; hyperplanes.com and hyperjets.com:  Are these names valuable &#8211; I think so, but selling them today may make them worthless or very little.  </p>
<p>Another company, shop360.com sold AC360.com for $12k+ last week.  I doubt I woud choose this 360 strategy, but I do have some 365&#8217;s.  But, I think VR360 is cool.  </p>
<p>The real point is, we all have strategies &#8211; some good, some bad.  Last week we bought dad.net for $21,000.  99% of people think that was a stupid buy and I definitely do not argue it&#8230;not a huge .net fan myself and please people don&#8217;t send me your .net lists at $20k now &#8211; we are not in the market.  But we wanted this name.  So, it worked for us.</p>
<p>I am gonna close as I got off the point of this thread. Jeff I wish you the best, whether we agree or not, it all comes to personal strategy.</p>
<p>My other belief is a domain portfolio millionaire is really broke if the only valuation given is his own.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff

As far as your comments go, I think you are taking my post way further than It was clearly meant.

All I said is that sometimes you have to leave a few bucks on the table for the good of the industry.  

I did not say you need to throw yourself on the sword for the greater good.

I did not say to sell and domain for $1,000 thats worth $50,000.  I never said sell your names for peanuts.

I sold officemanager.com for $30K at the live auction.  Could it have sold at $50K one day retail, probably.

The domain did not sell for peanuts, but I do think it sold for less than it could have retail.

What I am saying is that if your in an industry, and you believe something like the trade show auctions is important to the industry, then you have to do something, in furtherance of the industry.

Sell, buy, bid,  do something.

Likewise if you believe we need a voice in  government, representing our industry, then you have to give money to the ICA.  

SO the point is support the activities that you believe will more the industry forward.

Without the hard work of Ron Jackson, Rick Schwartz, Frank, and may others, this would not be an industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff</p>
<p>As far as your comments go, I think you are taking my post way further than It was clearly meant.</p>
<p>All I said is that sometimes you have to leave a few bucks on the table for the good of the industry.  </p>
<p>I did not say you need to throw yourself on the sword for the greater good.</p>
<p>I did not say to sell and domain for $1,000 thats worth $50,000.  I never said sell your names for peanuts.</p>
<p>I sold officemanager.com for $30K at the live auction.  Could it have sold at $50K one day retail, probably.</p>
<p>The domain did not sell for peanuts, but I do think it sold for less than it could have retail.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that if your in an industry, and you believe something like the trade show auctions is important to the industry, then you have to do something, in furtherance of the industry.</p>
<p>Sell, buy, bid,  do something.</p>
<p>Likewise if you believe we need a voice in  government, representing our industry, then you have to give money to the ICA.  </p>
<p>SO the point is support the activities that you believe will more the industry forward.</p>
<p>Without the hard work of Ron Jackson, Rick Schwartz, Frank, and may others, this would not be an industry.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg my friend, In your brilliant well researched personal attack. You left out a very important fact?
My response to you is any KEYWORDeBiz.com that is Branded, Short, and memorable, that reaches a target market is most valuable.

Time and patient truth will bear this out. Thank you for your opinion.  CHOW , Jeff Schneider / USeBiz.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg my friend, In your brilliant well researched personal attack. You left out a very important fact?<br />
My response to you is any KEYWORDeBiz.com that is Branded, Short, and memorable, that reaches a target market is most valuable.</p>
<p>Time and patient truth will bear this out. Thank you for your opinion.  CHOW , Jeff Schneider / USeBiz.com</p>
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